Now some converters if using A/V input may NOT have it enabled out of the box. that means you still need to connect it to an RF input and then select 'A/V' or whatever else it calls it. composite is another name for it in a menu. the Dish DTVPal+ has that option when first going through the setup wizard. in fact that box requires RF input initially until fully set up so it won't work on A/V out out of the box.
Of course, if the box isn't powered on (some show a LED lamp lit even when off or one which changes colors but still gives the impression it turned on already; why not just a bright green LED which is either on or off? saves confusion) you won't get much.
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