In my attempt to keep the post on message.
I don't think Government should be in the
NEWS business. It seems like there is too much chance of a conflict of interest.
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It still might be true that education leads people to more liberal (more "compassionate") perspectives, but I think that's a might big leap.
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liberal does not equal compassionate
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Of course you can be fiscally conservative and socially liberal. To suggest otherwise is ludicrous.
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Throughout history the Government has shown their lack of self control. You can't have it both ways. Conservatives believe in taking care of their own, not the Government.
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Fiscal conservatism
In other words, a government does not have the right to run up large debts and then throw the burden on the taxpayer; the taxpayers' right not to be taxed oppressively takes precedence even over paying back debts a government may have imprudently undertaken.
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Conservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Social conservatism
A second meaning of the term social conservativism developed in the Nordic countries and continental Europe. There it refers to liberal conservatives supporting modern European welfare states.
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Social conservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Welfare state
A model in which the state assumes primary responsibility for the welfare of its citizens. This responsibility in theory ought to be comprehensive, because all aspects of welfare are considered and universally applied to citizens as a "right".
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Welfare state - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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The linkage of fiscal conservatism and social conservatism is a product of the Republican Party, not any necessary linkage between the two.
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Your words taken from here
Social conservatism - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia show us there are certain points within social conservatism not linked to fiscal, but overall it leads a Country down the same path. Though I don't know how you attribute this to Republicans?
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How would you feel if someone told you that "at your core you are" selfish or bigoted because of your political perspectives? I think it is best if you refrain from statements like, "At your core you are ..." Doing so is inconsiderate -- dare I say incompassionate -- and it isn't your place to pronounce such things with regard to others. Take such stands with regard to yourself, for sure, but those other folks get to declare what they "are" or "are not" -- not you.
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This sounds like the many of your other posts on the internet. When you feel uncomfortable with another's opinion you politely ask them to refrain from giving one. You ask how I would feel. I wouldn't feel, I would realize you didn't know me
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I assume you're talking about the 21% of the population that is now willing to identify themselves as Republicans. 79% versus 21%.... which to worry ourselves about.  |
I think you have mistaken. I never mentioned Republicans. I was speaking of Conservatives. What did you pull these numbers out of? Here are the real facts. I would say you're a little out of phase on your facts.
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PRINCETON, NJ -- Thus far in 2009, 40% of Americans interviewed in national Gallup Poll surveys describe their political views as conservative, 35% as moderate, and 21% as liberal. This represents a slight increase for conservatism in the U.S. since 2008, returning it to a level last seen in 2004. The 21% calling themselves liberal is in line with findings throughout this decade, but is up from the 1990s.
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?Conservatives? Are Single-Largest Ideological Group
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It is my opinion, and clearly not one you are in a position to refute with facts. (Besides, you left out the quotation marks about "wrong", so I wonder if you even understood the sentence that you made your reply to.) The reality is that the Republicans were in the White House and whoever is in the White House will always be the ones who are doing the most "wrong", because the others aren't in a position to do anything.
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And now you resort to correcting my grammar. Very mature
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Most considerate, I'll gladly agree with. Some very nice people in Utah. The Unitarian Universalist Association of America just had its annual convention in Salt Lake City, and our delegates commented just how nice and polite everyone way, and how hospitable they were. That doesn't have much to do with what we're discussing though.
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Utah ranks #2 in the USA for it's conservative values. It's relevance is in response to "They do tend to highlight injustice and inequity, which seems to make them anti-Republican, because Republican perspectives often lead to situations that foster sensationalistic accusations of lack of compassion; PBS is not immune from covering that which will attract viewers more."
What is the most conservative state in the USA? -- A Grupthink Topic
