DTVPal DVR - Page 2

1inxs · 04-26-2009, 07:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Jay

With the market being smaller for the DTVPal DVR, there's probably not as much room for profit and even less for warranty. Just a guess though, but 90 days for DTVPal DVR is pretty anemic.

Things that excite me about this box?

150 hours record time
Pause live TV for up to 60 minutes
Skip recorded commercials with exclusive 30-second skip button
Instant Replay
and of course the dual tuner...

I'm going to have to think about getting one for review here.

Most if not all CECBs come with a 90 day warranty. Most electronics with a manufacturer defect will fail within the first 90 days. I believe all Credit Card company's double the Manufacturers warranty and some even extend it for 1 year.
Here's more to excite you. With the addition of a 1T HDD you increase the storage capacity to over
542 hours SD record time
142 hours HD record time
And don't forget if you were busy and missed the beginning of your program you can go into the menu and start from the beginning( up to 90 minutes earlier).

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Originally Posted by 98clru

My understanding is with the DTVpal dvr the program guide goes out for a week at a time but still to review the schedule you can't watch programming at the same time, just like my DTVpal converter. Don't know if you can cache and watch after reviewing the guide (my guess is you can) but when you get spoiled by better DVR's it would be a step down.

Something I never considered until this week is where I've gone. Tivo hd with 2 over the air HD tuners is $300 (I got one on clearance in box for $148). Lifetime program guide that blows the cable dvr's out of the water =$400 and is better than my dishnet dvr (granted Dishnet dvr tech is now at least 4 years old but wasn't hd either).

Most people don't start scanning the program guide for something to watch while they are watching a show they're already interested in, but if they did it's as simple as hitting the back button and watching what ever it was they had missed while the guide was viewed.

There's currently only 1 other option for a DVR and I don't see how going with a Dish Network DVR would be a step down? For $700.00 you can purchase almost 3 of the Dish Network DTVPal DVRs for the price of 1 TiVo with Lifetime service. Even if you use the closeout price of $550.00 you could purchase 2 Dish Network DVRPal DVRs. It is very unlikely you would ever have 3 DVRs fail or even 2, therefore you're beyond the 1 year warranty you would get with a TiVo. I have much I could say about TiVo, but I don't want to high jack a good thread on the Dish Network DTVPal DVR from Solid Signal.

bicker · 04-26-2009, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by 1inxs

There's currently only 1 other option for a DVR and I don't see how going with a Dish Network DVR would be a step down? For $700.00 you can purchase almost 3 of the Dish Network DTVPal DVRs for the price of 1 TiVo with Lifetime service.

I don't even understand why anyone would buy a TiVo HD when they aren't cable customers. It just doesn't make sense: So much of the cost of the TiVo is wrapped up in the cost to support CableCARD, that using the TiVo without CableCARD (and I know that there are some people who do) just doesn't make much sense to me.

The TiVo is in the same market as the $800 Moxi HD DVR, not the DTVPal DVR.

staticMHZ · 04-26-2009, 11:17 AM

Hows the EPG on this box? Does it have all the artwork and all those other goodies??

HTNut · 04-26-2009, 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by staticMHZ

Hows the EPG on this box? Does it have all the artwork and all those other goodies??

Click here for a picture of the EPG. It's TVGOS, but I don't think it has artwork/pictures like some of the cable and satellite DVRs.

What about a season pass type recording if I like a certain show? Since the program guide only extends out one week, is it possible to record a whole season? Or do you have to setup a schedule every week yourself? That's a huge plus for me with my current setup.

Actually, what would be even better (and this is just wishful thinking), is being able to setup a record schedule online or over my cell phone.

1inxs · 04-26-2009, 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HTNut

Click here for a picture of the EPG. It's TVGOS, but I don't think it has artwork/pictures like some of the cable and satellite DVRs.

What about a season pass type recording if I like a certain show? Since the program guide only extends out one week, is it possible to record a whole season? Or do you have to setup a schedule every week yourself? That's a huge plus for me with my current setup.

Actually, what would be even better (and this is just wishful thinking), is being able to setup a record schedule online or over my cell phone.

You can set it to record the same day/time every week, but if the network changes the normal time slot of your program you would miss it. If you hear of a time slot change you just change your recording schedule accordingly. It shouldn't be a big issue for most.

1inxs · 04-26-2009, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by staticMHZ

Hows the EPG on this box? Does it have all the artwork and all those other goodies??

Here is a fully functional TVGOS picture from ilovehdtv on photobucket

This following is actually a picture of PSIP guide without the full function you would get with TVGOS.

staticMHZ · 04-26-2009, 10:35 PM

if over the air tv gets popular enough they may make new boxes that have the artwork and interactive features like watching movie trailers or hooking it up to a PC to hack it and stuff ehhhhhhhh.....

nice to speculate! lol

98clru · 04-27-2009, 03:06 AM

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Originally Posted by bicker

I don't even understand why anyone would buy a TiVo HD when they aren't cable customers. It just doesn't make sense: So much of the cost of the TiVo is wrapped up in the cost to support CableCARD, that using the TiVo without CableCARD (and I know that there are some people who do) just doesn't make much sense to me.

The TiVo is in the same market as the $800 Moxi HD DVR, not the DTVPal DVR.

Cable card costs are probably not as much of the cost of the Tivo as the cost of stripping the satellite tuners to make the DTVpal was. The current Dish DVR does have dual atsc tuners available for purchase and installation.

If all you want is to pause live TV the DTVPal will be great. Other than that for a few $ / week I don't see where you can campare the two. The life expectancy for the box should be 10 years plus for both units, if the hard drive fails (no reason to believe either is more likely to have that happen but that is all that is likely to happen after warrantee) both are easily and reasonably replaced.

I thought this was a DTV forum as in over the air, Moxi is cable only. Another point for Tivo is that it has both NTSC and ATSC tuners so if you live in an area with a low power translator that is NOT going ATSC it will work for that too.

So not to hijack the thread I started one for the Tivo HD, any further comments will be welcome there. dual-tuner-tivo-hd-less-than-you-may-think\

Thanks for a great post Jay!

Aaron62 · 04-27-2009, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by 98clru

I thought this was a DTV forum as in over the air, Moxi is cable only. Another point for Tivo is that it has both NTSC and ATSC tuners so if you live in an area with a low power translator that is NOT going ATSC it will work for that too.

OTA/Cable/Satellite...we chat about everything. I think bicker was comparing the Moxi because of the cost.

1inxs · 05-07-2009, 08:54 PM

Has anyone else purchased the Dish Network DTVPal DVR? It sure makes watching OTA broadcasts nice. We don't have to switch back and forth between two shows at the same time. We can watch one and let the DVR record the other to watch in its entirety when we get time later. Sure wish I could figure out the problem with TVGOS. That's the only thing I still haven't got working.


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