Getting HD Channels without renting Comcast's box
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Is there a way to purchase my own HD box so I can see the channels on my comcast cable. I was watching the sub-channels for HD but this week Comcast shut them all down and now they want $12.98 a month for their converter box so I can see HD channels.
There has to be some third party converter out there I can purchase and hook up and watch HD. My HD ready tv is useless without one and the regular picture sucks!
Anyone have any ideas?
So you have an HD-ready TV that doesn't have a built-in dtv tuner? You won't be able to get HD on it without using a converter. For Comcast, you have to use their set top box because it descrambles the proprietary signal that they broadcast.
Alternatively, you can purchase an HD tuner box for your TV and receive local HD channels.
The over-the-air broadcast channels are generally* not encrypted, so you would still be able to tune them with your own QAM tuner. Since you indicated that you were able to tune in the channels you're looking for, previously, that means that you're specifically talking about cable networks rather than over-the-air broadcast channels.
Originally Posted by raybobrandall
The federal government passed regulations requiring the cable companies to support separable security, so that you could purchase a separate device on your own, and have any decryption facilitated through this separable security scheme. The scheme implemented is called CableCARD, so to benefit from this law, and do as you are aiming to do, you would need to have a CableCARD-compatible host device. Manufacturers, such as Samsung, Sony, LG, Vizio, Panasonic and others, have not been offering such devices for sale, in recent years, because too many consumers are not willing to pay the premium for the additional circuitry. At this point, there are only two devices for sale in the United States that serve your needs (that aren't part of a PC-based solution), and both are DVRs: The Moxi HD DVR runs about $500 now, and the TiVo HD DVR runs about $600-$700 including lifetime service. (Neither device works without service.)
Originally Posted by raybobrandall
If you have any other questions about these devices please let me know.
* They legally could encrypt HD versions, providing SD downconverts unencrypted, but FWIR that is only the case in a few cities in the country, and I don't believe any of those are served by Comcast.
First of all, let me say that there is no Box out there that I'm aware of, which works around the encryption that Comcast has on most of it's channels. Any device of that nature would be illegal, and we would not do that.
Now, I'm not sure if I understood what you said. You got HD from Comcast without a Box !!! Was that some kind of temporary Freebee ?
And, I"m not sure just how they would have transmitted that (without their box).
The only way to get "more" channels via a direct connection of the Comcast Coax Cable, is to have a QAM Tuner in your TV, along side of the ATSC/Digital tuner. It's possible that your set may also have a NTSC/Analog tuner as well.
Look at your Ops Manual for your TV, and it will tell you what tuners you have.
When connecting your TV directly to the Comcast Cable...
IF, you have a QAM, you should be able to access Channels like 93-10 or 102-10.
The NTSC/Analog part, would provide you with Ch 2-99.
And the ATSC/Digital part, would (very inconsistently) let you tune in Ch 2.1, 8.1, like that.
So, you can get some of the Comcast proprietary channels, WHEN they want you to, buy not encrypting them, directly off their line, via a QAM tuner.
Now I'll admit something...
I tried that. Bought a H260F ($170.00) just to do what you want, and what a disappointment it was !!!
I got the local channels, which were available anyway, and about four channels which my TV wouldn't tune in, since it wasn't QAM equipped.
A waste of money !!!
Fortunately, the 260 can be used as a Digital Converter Box, so I have some use for it, thankfully.
So, the moral to this is,
If I knew of a piece of equipment that actually would do what you want, I wouldn't tell you.
If I knew of any software which you could use to violate the encryption, I wouldn't tell you.
Sorry about that, but, you just don't understand how much trouble this Website could get in to, by even discussing that kind of stuff.
If I were the Administrator for this Forum, I wold politely tell you to seek other resources for your needs, then probably ban you !
So, rent their box, or do it like Bicker says, legal !
Have a good Day !
Last edited by SWHouston; 12-12-2009 at 05:28 AM.