05-30-2009, 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
My TV is on the east side of my house, but you recommend putting the antenna on the west, right? I can certainly do that.
Believe me, I don't get any of the stations that have gone digital with my TIVAX STB-8 converter and the RCA ANT111.
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Ok, I believe you. You are really close to the stations so outside should work on everything.
What is blocking our signal with the RCA ANT111 is beyond me. You might have a lot of metal inside the walls. I have seen that here locally with a guy that lives in an apt in Gainesville FL. Almost no signal for him inside.
Well I said west because that takes your house of out the way. You can go up on the east side if you clear the roof with a pole (also called a mast).
Putting one east side means probably about 15 ft up. It would take less coax, so that is good.
If you are putting it up on a pole (east side means less coax to run making it easier) I would go ahead and buy a HBU22.
So if you plan to put it on the east side, we need to know how high the peak of the roof is then we need to make you a shopping list.
So are you good with a drill and a wrench? You said you were doing this yourself.
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06-01-2009, 04:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Piggie
Ok, I believe you. You are really close to the stations so outside should work on everything.
What is blocking our signal with the RCA ANT111 is beyond me. You might have a lot of metal inside the walls. I have seen that here locally with a guy that lives in an apt in Gainesville FL. Almost no signal for him inside.
Well I said west because that takes your house of out the way. You can go up on the east side if you clear the roof with a pole (also called a mast).
Putting one east side means probably about 15 ft up. It would take less coax, so that is good.
If you are putting it up on a pole (east side means less coax to run making it easier) I would go ahead and buy a HBU22.
So if you plan to put it on the east side, we need to know how high the peak of the roof is then we need to make you a shopping list.
So are you good with a drill and a wrench? You said you were doing this yourself.
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Hi Piggie,
It would be easier for me if I put the antenna on the east side of my house as the previous owner had cable TV with coax entering on the east side. I doubt that there's a lot of metal behind the walls, but I don't know for sure. It's a small ranch with wooden shingles.
The east side of my house is also where the paved driveway is, so I can't put a pole in the ground. It's going to have to be mounted on the side of the house or on the roof's peak. I can measure the peak tomorrow when I'll have a new extension ladder. I'll get right back to you with the measurement.
I hate to be dense, but when you say, "peak" of the house, should I measure the peak on the highest rise? My house is on a bit of an incline with a walkout, finished basement in the back. From the back the house looks like a 2-floor, but from the front it's a 1-floor ranch with a smaller rise. The back (north side) has the highest rise from peak to ground.
I have a television in the finished basement on the west side with a higher rise than the east side. I know this sounds weird. Am I making any sense?
By the way Piggie, thank you for all of the great information. Thanks to everybody else too. I am not technically savvy, so your help is very appreciated. Not too good with a drill and a wrench either, but I'll try.
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06-01-2009, 06:54 PM
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
Hi Piggie,
It would be easier for me if I put the antenna on the east side of my house as the previous owner had cable TV with coax entering on the east side. I doubt that there's a lot of metal behind the walls, but I don't know for sure. It's a small ranch with wooden shingles.
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That will work, the cable TV coax. They use RG6, which is the good stuff. Be sure you know where it goes in the house. Does it go to a spliter for 2 rooms? What type of splitter, 2 way, 3way, 4 way? You need to find where the coax goes in the house.
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
The east side of my house is also where the paved driveway is, so I can't put a pole in the ground. It's going to have to be mounted on the side of the house or on the roof's peak. I can measure the peak tomorrow when I'll have a new extension ladder. I'll get right back to you with the measurement.
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Putting up antennas mounted to the roof itself is only good when you are really good at construction stuff. Lets say actually mounted up on the roof is out. You can put up two wall mounts on the side of the house and hold a small antenna like the HBU22 just fine, even in the snow and ice.
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
I hate to be dense, but when you say, "peak" of the house, should I measure the peak on the highest rise? My house is on a bit of an incline with a walkout, finished basement in the back. From the back the house looks like a 2-floor, but from the front it's a 1-floor ranch with a smaller rise. The back (north side) has the highest rise from peak to ground.
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The peak is the highest point on the roof. Not the edge.
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
I have a television in the finished basement on the west side with a higher rise than the east side. I know this sounds weird. Am I making any sense?
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Is there coax going there from the cable that was there before? If not you have to plan that.
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By the way Piggie, thank you for all of the great information. Thanks to everybody else too. I am not technically savvy, so your help is very appreciated. Not too good with a drill and a wrench either, but I'll try.
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To put the antenna pole on the house you will need a drill and then bolt it there with a wrench. Plus you need a wrench to put the antenna on the pole.
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06-02-2009, 06:19 PM
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you'll also need to ground this according to local code
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06-03-2009, 05:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Piggie
That will work, the cable TV coax. They use RG6, which is the good stuff. Be sure you know where it goes in the house. Does it go to a spliter for 2 rooms? What type of splitter, 2 way, 3way, 4 way? You need to find where the coax goes in the house.
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I know that the cable only comes into the bedroom on the east side. No other room in the house has a cable or wires indicating a TV. I doubt there's a splitter but I'll check
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Originally Posted by Piggie
Putting up antennas mounted to the roof itself is only good when you are really good at construction stuff. Lets say actually mounted up on the roof is out. You can put up two wall mounts on the side of the house and hold a small antenna like the HBU22 just fine, even in the snow and ice.
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Not good with construction, so it will be a side-mount.
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Originally Posted by Piggie
The peak is the highest point on the roof. Not the edge.
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Duh, thanks.
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Originally Posted by Piggie
Is there coax going there from the cable that was there before? If not you have to plan that.
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When I had cable TV discontinued I think they left the old cable there. The cable is still coming into my east bedroom, and when I attach the end to my current TV the reception is much better. I'll take a look at that too. I'm not sure if the cable drop is still connected at the pole as I know they shut off cable TV from the office. Not sure if it's legal if I remove it myself, but I think I could (worked as an outside-plant engineer for what is now Verizon). I'm afraid if I call ComCast TV they'll remove the coax drop and take it with them. If I have to buy new coax I will.
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Originally Posted by Piggie
To put the antenna pole on the house you will need a drill and then bolt it there with a wrench. Plus you need a wrench to put the antenna on the pole.
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Thanks. I do have a drill and several wrenches. I'm not too sure of the know-how but I've taught myself allot as a new homeowner. Who Knows?
Stephanie
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06-03-2009, 07:52 PM
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Originally Posted by RaRaLew
I know that the cable only comes into the bedroom on the east side. No other room in the house has a cable or wires indicating a TV. I doubt there's a splitter but I'll check
Not good with construction, so it will be a side-mount.
When I had cable TV discontinued I think they left the old cable there. The cable is still coming into my east bedroom, and when I attach the end to my current TV the reception is much better. I'll take a look at that too. I'm not sure if the cable drop is still connected at the pole as I know they shut off cable TV from the office. Not sure if it's legal if I remove it myself, but I think I could (worked as an outside-plant engineer for what is now Verizon). I'm afraid if I call ComCast TV they'll remove the coax drop and take it with them. If I have to buy new coax I will.
Thanks. I do have a drill and several wrenches. I'm not too sure of the know-how but I've taught myself allot as a new homeowner. Who Knows?
Stephanie
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Did the boys at AVS agree with me? There are some sharp cookies over there. Falcon, IDRick, Towerguy often jump in those thread to help people. I quote Falcon here a lot for his work with Trip on RabbitEars.info
You could upgrade to the Winegard 7694P as someone over there suggested, and that would not be over kill. It's a very very nice antenna. It's built a little more sturdy than the AntennaCraft HBU22, part of why it's $20 more. But it the best antenna in it's class. A 7694P would mount on anything the HBU22 and about 5 inches shorter.
One thing nice about the 7694P is you can plug coax directly into it. So you don't need a balun.
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I don't know the law there, but here in Florida, any cable that is on the homeowners side of the grounding block belongs to the home owner once installed. You can check locally on that. But I bet the cable entering the house is yours.
Is there anywhere to drive a ground rod under where you plan to install the antenna?
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06-03-2009, 08:02 PM
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2002 NEC Grounding Communications Systems
Remember that nothing will protect the antenna from a direct hit but grounding lowers the chance of it happening. Good to be on the safe side.
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06-03-2009, 10:23 PM
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This is a little less technical, and has pictures
Antenna Basics
If she had cable coming in the house, most likely the separate their part of the cable and your part of the cable with the ground block.
She may just be able to remove the cable wire from the pole, put the antenna into the ground block and have it all solved.
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06-12-2009, 03:45 AM
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Originally Posted by Piggie
Did the boys at AVS agree with me? There are some sharp cookies over there. Falcon, IDRick, Towerguy often jump in those thread to help people. I quote Falcon here a lot for his work with Trip on RabbitEars.info
You could upgrade to the Winegard 7694P as someone over there suggested, and that would not be over kill. It's a very very nice antenna. It's built a little more sturdy than the AntennaCraft HBU22, part of why it's $20 more. But it the best antenna in it's class. A 7694P would mount on anything the HBU22 and about 5 inches shorter.
One thing nice about the 7694P is you can plug coax directly into it. So you don't need a balun.
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I don't know the law there, but here in Florida, any cable that is on the homeowners side of the grounding block belongs to the home owner once installed. You can check locally on that. But I bet the cable entering the house is yours.
Is there anywhere to drive a ground rod under where you plan to install the antenna?
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AVS did agree with you, Piggie. In fact I saw the user name Piggie w/o the pig picture and thought it might be you?
I can ground the antenna beneath it, but over to the left a bit. That's where the driveway and front yard meet. I'm going to check the cable on the pole though, and will use it if that's easier.
You've all been a great help, and I've only got a few hours left, so I'm going to buy the Winegard 7694P today. I'll tell you how it goes.
Thanks again, everyone. I was totally lost when I started this thread, but feel much more informed and confident now.
Stephanie
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06-12-2009, 03:56 AM
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Thanks, staticMHZ. I agree, I'd rather be on the safe side too.
Stephanie
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