06-02-2009, 08:44 PM
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Testing tvfool and antennaweb for accuracy
I thought I'd start a thread to test for the accuracy of websites like TV Fool
AntennaWeb
Antennapoint.com - Antenna Locator
I have learned from other posts some of these websites are all volunteer. Hopefully we will help with the accuracy through information users will post in this forum. My Zip Code is 84036. What channels can I expect to receive? What antenna is recommended and what direction do I need to aim it? What will happen after the DTV transition? Please post back with the website used and what the recommendations are. I will post back with my results.
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06-02-2009, 10:09 PM
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My zip is somewhere in southern California (sorry, I am too paranoid about internet privacy to be more specific than that) and TV Fool has worked great for me on all but a couple channels. I would advise those viewers in the
"June 12th areas" to try it AFTER the transition. You might notice that it was more accurate than you think.
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06-03-2009, 04:49 AM
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Originally Posted by 1inxs
I thought I'd start a thread to test for the accuracy of websites like TV Fool
AntennaWeb
Antennapoint.com - Antenna Locator
I have learned from other posts some of these websites are all volunteer. Hopefully we will help with the accuracy through information users will post in this forum. .....
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The only one that is volunteer is TVFool.com run by Andy Lee.
He can be contacted with corrections and ask him questions and if you lurk the last few pages learn a lot how the site works
Official TV Fool forum - Page 17 - AVS Forum
That is the current page the thread is up to at this point.
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06-03-2009, 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Piggie
The only one that is volunteer is TVFool.com run by Andy Lee.
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My post wasn't to figure which of the websites was volunteer. I posted to see based on the best websites available, what stations/channels I can hope to receive before and after the DTV transition. Mostly to prove a fact. I was only able to determine my antenna and direction of tower by driving around a 3 county area and contact the county engineers. I may not completely understand tvfool and the others. They gave me no information relevant to my area. I wonder how inaccurate they are in other areas. I see numerous posts using information to choose the type of antenna and which direction to aim for the best reception. I posted my Zip of 84036 and challenged others to confirm the accuracy of the websites.
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06-06-2009, 12:28 AM
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Originally Posted by 1inxs
I posted my Zip of 84036 and challenged others to confirm the accuracy of the websites.
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The main problem with your request is that zip code 84036 is very large and the centroid of the zip code is in the middle of nowhere. Searching for zip code 84036 in Google Earth yielded a point that was deep in the mountains about 30 miles from the nearest transmitter. There is definitely very little TV signal reaching this point, so that is probably why the tools didn't provide you with any useful information.
In this kind of environment, you'll need to be much more specific with your location in order to get a realistic result. You'll probably get much more useful feedback from those sites by entering your exact address or coordinate.
Cheers,
Chuck
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06-06-2009, 05:08 AM
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Welcome to the DTVUSA Forum and thank you for your post. I can see 3 cities on the map you posted. I am in Kamas, the city in the center of the 3 cities shown.
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Originally Posted by otaota
The main problem with your request is that zip code 84036 is very large and the centroid of the zip code is in the middle of nowhere. Searching for zip code 84036 in Google Earth yielded a point that was deep in the mountains about 30 miles from the nearest transmitter. There is definitely very little TV signal reaching this point, so that is probably why the tools didn't provide you with any useful information.
In this kind of environment, you'll need to be much more specific with your location in order to get a realistic result. You'll probably get much more useful feedback from those sites by entering your exact address or coordinate.
Cheers,
Chuck
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06-06-2009, 06:49 AM
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Antennaweb.org is more accurate at my end, TVFool misses one channel that is new to my area, but thinks WAZE-TV is there when it ain't. Antennaweb.org shows no mention of WAZE-TV because, as fact sadly states, it doesn't exist outside of cable/satellite. i was afraid of that, bye bye one of my favorite channels, those of you with a CW affiliate be very thankful, i just lost mine.
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06-06-2009, 07:34 AM
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Originally Posted by 1inxs
I may not completely understand tvfool and the others. They gave me no information relevant to my area. I wonder how inaccurate they are in other areas. I see numerous posts using information to choose the type of antenna and which direction to aim for the best reception. I posted my Zip of 84036 and challenged others to confirm the accuracy of the websites.
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You live in an area served only by translators. When you look at the number of stations in the state of Utah, there is no way to list them all unless you want to turn it into a full-time job. Observe:
W9WI.com/TV Database Online/(states)Utah
I started trying to sort out the translator network in Utah one day, spent about 4 hours on it, and then gave up. It's way too complicated. Andy would likely handle it better than anyone else, but as I said in another post, he can't be expected to know what every one of the 4,000 full- and low-powered stations in the country are doing, especially each translator in Utah. Your inaccurate results from the various sites is an exception, not a rule.
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Originally Posted by DTVuser2009
Antennaweb.org is more accurate at my end, TVFool misses one channel that is new to my area, but thinks WAZE-TV is there when it ain't. Antennaweb.org shows no mention of WAZE-TV because, as fact sadly states, it doesn't exist outside of cable/satellite. i was afraid of that, bye bye one of my favorite channels, those of you with a CW affiliate be very thankful, i just lost mine.
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I have answered this in another thread.
- Trip
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06-06-2009, 11:01 AM
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Originally Posted by otaota
You'll probably get much more useful feedback from those sites by entering your exact address or coordinate.
Cheers,
Chuck
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I wonder when they will use Zip Plus 4 or Plus 6, that can home in on the exact area. (you can see your plus 4 or plus 6 code on some bills you receive. You'll notice the plus 6 is the address' last 2 digits added to the plus 4)
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06-06-2009, 12:14 PM
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Tvfool has more data than antennaweb but I can't make head nor tails of it
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