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Old 06-13-2009, 12:02 AM   #11 (permalink)
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why is that?
Try and keep this simple.

Ever seen a mirage on the road that looks like water? Or seem foggy conditions where you could hear say a train from 10 miles away?

The same thing happens at night to VHF and UHF radio waves that carry the television (both analog and digital) to your TV antenna.

During the day, the sun heats the ground, warming the air directly above it. As you go up in the sky (obvious if you have ever been in a small airplane without air conditioning). This is the normal situation in the day. Air is hotter near the ground and gets colder for the first 10 miles as you go higher from the ground.

Now comes night time. The opposite starts happening. The ground, lacking sunlight, cools. It cools the air above it faster than the air at altitude can cool. Air is a great insulator so the higher air doesn't cool as fast as air near the ground.

This is called some times an inversion because there is hot air above cold air at the surface. Normal is hot air at the surface and colder at altitude.

If this night time cooling at the surface is enough, the radio waves instead of going out into outer space hit the boundary between cool air at the surface and warm air above them and bend back to earth at distances greater than they normally would.

Its like the air becomes a big mirror over the earth at night. Some nights it's stronger than other.

So just like a hot road bends light back at you making it look like water, the hot air above the cold air at night, bends the radio waves back to earth.
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Old 06-13-2009, 05:27 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Nope still getting all new channels with no problem I had to do a complete rescan to get all my channels back as when they flipped the switch I lost them but when I rescanned they showed up as channel 75 rather than channel 5 which it had been or 78 instead of 8
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The bands should still be open, maybe even more intense judging from the predictions.

This high pressure ridge that has settled over the Gulf Coast is causing a lot of dx to run. It may not move for days either.
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now my signal on all my stations seems to have dropped, maybe this had something to do with the atmosphere, beats me
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RTN Changed to VHF so i had zero signal but i got up on my roof and re-aimed the antenna and fixed the rotator (was jammed tighter than a drum) and it's back, and at 80%. the other channels were about 68-73 on a normal day. now apparently re-aiming it also made them jump upwards of 90-98%.

Still no WAZE, and still the same channels as before, i really hoped i'd get bombarded by some newbies but i guess either that was unrealistic thinking and i may just have to live with 15 channels, or maybe i just have to wait. does anyone know what's going to happen now? other than one channel having a band change to VHF it's the same as in February when i bought my first converter. with analog gone are more channels to come?
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Aren't you glad they didn't complete the transition in February as originally planned. You wouldn't be able to get up on the roof and aim the antenna with all the snow.
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I don't know about snow but it would've been friggin' cold. but then i only had maybe 5 channels. i couldn't even pick up RTN at all. or NBC or THIS.
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Aren't you glad they didn't complete the transition in February as originally planned. You wouldn't be able to get up on the roof and aim the antenna with all the snow.
This week in the shade it was 95 degrees and 85% humidity making it feel like about 100 degrees.

And there is no shade on my antenna on the roof.

The only snow around here is very illegal and most occurs in South FL, not up in the North part.
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This week in the shade it was 95 degrees and 85% humidity making it feel like about 100 degrees.

And there is no shade on my antenna on the roof.

The only snow around here is very illegal and most occurs in South FL, not up in the North part.
It's been a whopping 50 degrees around here.

Been there done that! Oh did I say that out loud

No, I'm clean as the driven snow , Now
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now my signal on all my stations seems to have dropped, maybe this had something to do with the atmosphere, beats me
The same thing occurred in Central Mass (Westminster). I would loose everything except channels 44 and 50. A few hours later they would come back. Things have been OK for a week now.
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