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Old 06-18-2009, 11:40 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Why WOIO is low low low power.

From the Ohio Media Watch site...

[i]"WOIO has two answers to questions about this untenable situation:

1) "We applied for a power increase." Well, they did, from 3.5 kW to 10.3 kW, but it's being held up by Canadian coordination issues.
10.3 KW is still totally inadequate power. 40 or more would duplicate their old coverage.

If they don't think they can get approved for 10.3, forget 40.

This is happening in many many markets with as many stations as possible filed to be on VHF high band.

Do you think we should have given away at least 52-59?

It's not more efficient in so many practical applications, the TV industry was sold down the river. So so many communities the problem can't be fixed, ever never ever, amen, good by reception.

At least "if" they get approved for 10KW it should give them a 40 mile range with the people on that fringe running 10 element VHF beams. Those over 10 miles with 6 element beams.

Heck I bet at 3.5 KW it takes a 6 element at 12 miles now, and rabbit ears might work out 8 to 10 in good directions.

I was in the discussion at AVS when we pulled this all together what was going to happen. Falcon_77 gets the credit for the name and original definition.

But I tell you what boys and girls, I didn't see it all coming to this being so bad. It's a mess.

Here in FL we have VHF's on the same channel 160 miles apart, all applying for and granted huge power increases. I thought the analog interference on the same channel was bad. I don't care what the theory says, digital interference is even worse.

Stations I can watch in the day disappear at night as the skip rolls, which it does in FL constantly at night. Rare are the nights without tropo.

And from my observations from the FM-DX propagation prediction charts it only takes mild tropo to wipe out anyone more than 30 to 40 miles from a VHF transmitter regardless of your Front to Back, Front to Side ratios. Because when the skip rolls even mild you get plenty of signal off the back and sides of a VHF beam.

What do I need to do? Stack a quad array of four YA-1713's to try and block tropo? $250 worth of antennas and combiners? Would that even help?

I guess I need to join the crowd and start writing letters to NBC, FCC for the mess. I get a more consistent signal from Radio Moscow than NBC, honest.
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I can't really invest in an outdoor antenna, nor do I have the capability of hooking it up to get the best signal.
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I can't really invest in an outdoor antenna, nor do I have the capability of hooking it up to get the best signal.
What kind of budget do you have?

Have you tried moving your indoor antenna around to a different location in your house? You can try connecting a bigger length of coax cable to the antenna from you converter box and try placing the antenna in different locations, then doing another auto channel scan. There's probably only a low, low chance that this would work, but if it does work, it would be cheaper than having to buy another antenna.
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yeah my mother definitely wouldnt let me put up an outdoor one, is what I meant. Plus I have no money so thats a problem
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Okay I finally got it to work pretty well. All I did was point the antenna all the way up to the ceiling and once again did a scan. This time it found more channels, and then I just adjusted the antenna to CBS. now it works pretty well. Thanks for helping me - the tv fool site helped a lot to show me where to point the antenna. I hope this helps some other people with their problems.
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Okay I finally got it to work pretty well. All I did was point the antenna all the way up to the ceiling and once again did a scan. This time it found more channels, and then I just adjusted the antenna to CBS. now it works pretty well. Thanks for helping me - the tv fool site helped a lot to show me where to point the antenna. I hope this helps some other people with their problems.
Cool. I wish everyone with sucess would come back and tell us what worked.

First the knowledge is good. Two it just feels good after researching for someone out the ether to help for free just a thank you.

Your welcome and enjoy!
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