Why cant I get any Fox affiliate? - Page 2

shotinthedark · 07-16-2009, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Piggie

Glad you gave us the zip, I was on the wrong Monroe, somewhere south of Easton, NJ.

Now to your antenna.

How high off the ground is it about?

Do you have a rotor?

Do you know if you have any amplifiers in the system?

Do you have any splitters going to more than one room even not hooked up but going through a splitter?

Its about 15 feet high. I do not have a rotor. Amplifiers? There arent any splitters.

shotinthedark · 07-16-2009, 08:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_M

Here's a link to a ZIP code-based TVFool report for 08831. IIRC, that's a fairly flat area (partial disclosure: grew up in Morris County

; number of years elapsed since then shall remain undisclosed

). The ZIP's land area should be compact, so this should be somewhat valid.

Almost all of those stations in green are from NYC (38 degrees, 38 miles), which should be an easy get with any decent all-channel antenna above the roof; Philly (246 degrees, 48 miles) is a bit more difficult, but by no means impossible with a roof antenna. The usual suspects are: Either some component of the system (antenna, downlead cable, splitter, etc.), or combination of them, has worn out from weathering or age; an amp is needed due to the number of sets running off the antenna; or there's too much amplification for one or two sets.

Where can I get an amp?

Don_M · 07-16-2009, 11:58 AM

You'll find the best quality and prices online. However, an amp shouldn't be necessary at all for one TV, except where the downlead cable is longer than 75 feet. An amp also won't do anything to help if the real reason for this reception issue is that the antenna or downlead are deteriorating due to age, or there's a bad connection, water ingress or corrosion developing somewhere. So please do some troubleshooting of the antenna and downlead first.

Replacing the downlead with RG-6 coaxial cable, and the coax transformer used to attach the cable to the antenna, is a good first step for two reasons: The downlead frequently goes bad before the antenna does, and this stuff is inexpensive -- maybe $30 or so. If new cable doesn't help, then it's time to consider getting a new antenna.

Trust me on this one: There are lots of pre-amps sitting in storage boxes in basements and garages throughout the country not because they're faulty, but because they weren't needed in the first place.

Piggie · 07-16-2009, 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shotinthedark

Its about 15 feet high. I do not have a rotor. Amplifiers? There aren't any splitters.

you said you had a large antenna from the analog days, which should still work. A lot of your stations went from VHF to UHF when they went digital.

You may have too much loss between your antenna and your TV/Converter box to pull in UHF from NYCity.

One is to be sure your antenna is pointed at NYC since currently you don't have a rotor and will need one if you want to turn and point at Philly, as it's farther away and weaker. Where you might have needed to point at stations before with digital everything has to be perfect in a TV system.

If the coax and balun at the antenna is over 10 to 15 years old you probably want to replace it with good quality RG6 coax. And buy a new balun (the thing that hooks the coax to antenna screw terminals.

Then being sure you are pointed at NYC do a new channel scan and see what comes in.

If that doesn't help, try adding a Winegard AP8700 Chromstar 2000 Series VHF/UHF Pre Amplifier (AP-8700) | AP-8700 [Winegard] and leave it in the factory position of Fixed Trap In.

It's a two part system. One part needs to go up right below the antenna, so you need access to the antenna (you also do to change the coax and balun).

If you want Philly stations according to TVFool, you need to be able to turn the antenna.

shotinthedark · 07-18-2009, 10:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_M

You'll find the best quality and prices online. However, an amp shouldn't be necessary at all for one TV, except where the downlead cable is longer than 75 feet. An amp also won't do anything to help if the real reason for this reception issue is that the antenna or downlead are deteriorating due to age, or there's a bad connection, water ingress or corrosion developing somewhere. So please do some troubleshooting of the antenna and downlead first.

Replacing the downlead with RG-6 coaxial cable, and the coax transformer used to attach the cable to the antenna, is a good first step for two reasons: The downlead frequently goes bad before the antenna does, and this stuff is inexpensive -- maybe $30 or so. If new cable doesn't help, then it's time to consider getting a new antenna.

Trust me on this one: There are lots of pre-amps sitting in storage boxes in basements and garages throughout the country not because they're faulty, but because they weren't needed in the first place.

My monitor is connected by 20+ feet of coax to the antenna which is in the attic.

shotinthedark · 07-18-2009, 10:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Piggie

you said you had a large antenna from the analog days, which should still work. A lot of your stations went from VHF to UHF when they went digital.

You may have too much loss between your antenna and your TV/Converter box to pull in UHF from NYCity.

One is to be sure your antenna is pointed at NYC since currently you don't have a rotor and will need one if you want to turn and point at Philly, as it's farther away and weaker. Where you might have needed to point at stations before with digital everything has to be perfect in a TV system.

If the coax and balun at the antenna is over 10 to 15 years old you probably want to replace it with good quality RG6 coax. And buy a new balun (the thing that hooks the coax to antenna screw terminals.

Then being sure you are pointed at NYC do a new channel scan and see what comes in.

If that doesn't help, try adding a Winegard AP8700 Chromstar 2000 Series VHF/UHF Pre Amplifier (AP-8700) | AP-8700 [Winegard] and leave it in the factory position of Fixed Trap In.

It's a two part system. One part needs to go up right below the antenna, so you need access to the antenna (you also do to change the coax and balun).

If you want Philly stations according to TVFool, you need to be able to turn the antenna.

I didnt think trying to get Fox5 or Fox29 would be a hobby.
How do I get the antenna pointed at NY??
The coax was first installed in 1986 then replaced about 1995

If dont fix this its no Family Guy or the Simpsons. Maybe i should write Fox; cause I'm in the middle a a crowded community.

Piggie · 07-18-2009, 07:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shotinthedark

I didnt think trying to get Fox5 or Fox29 would be a hobby.
How do I get the antenna pointed at NY??
The coax was first installed in 1986 then replaced about 1995

If dont fix this its no Family Guy or the Simpsons. Maybe i should write Fox; cause I'm in the middle a a crowded community.

Buy using the center of your zip code the Empire State Building is at 51 degrees on a compass (not the same as actual heading which is 38. But is you use a compass us 51 degrees. In the attic the compass might not be too accurate. But if you lot and house are square to north south east and west, and the actual heading is 38, then pointed just about north east and that should be close enough.

If the coax is all indoors it's not likely worn out.

shotinthedark · 07-21-2009, 09:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Don_M

Here's a link to a ZIP code-based TVFool report for 08831. IIRC, that's a fairly flat area (partial disclosure: grew up in Morris County

; number of years elapsed since then shall remain undisclosed

). The ZIP's land area should be compact, so this should be somewhat valid.

Almost all of those stations in green are from NYC (38 degrees, 38 miles), which should be an easy get with any decent all-channel antenna above the roof; Philly (246 degrees, 48 miles) is a bit more difficult, but by no means impossible with a roof antenna. The usual suspects are: Either some component of the system (antenna, downlead cable, splitter, etc.), or combination of them, has worn out from weathering or age; an amp is needed due to the number of sets running off the antenna; or there's too much amplification for one or two sets.

For some reason I missed the link til now, thanks


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