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    OTA Newbie needs advice

    Our family has decided to cut the cord and take advantage of free OTA tv! I never dreamed that my husband would go for it, so I'm thrilled! We want to install an antenna and we will also stream through Roku.

    Presently we have one HDTV (Sony Bravia), overpay for Dish Network and live outside of Louisville, KY in Mt. Washington, Ky. Here is a link to our TVFool info. TV Fool

    Please advise antenna recommendations!

    Will we be able to unplug the cable from the Dish, and just attach that same cable to the antenna, unplug from the Dish box and plug into our tv, or is it more complicated than that?

    I am VERY new to this process, so thank you for your patience!

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    Heather,

    Your antenna survey is based at 5' above ground level and it has great potential! There are a couple ways to look at your situation: you could try an indoor NON-amplified 'set-top' antenna with telescopic rods for VHF to see what it receives before you invest in an outdoor antenna. They are pretty cheap at Radio Shack, Walmart, or better yet, try Craigslist. That might be all you need.

    For now, I'll let others pipe in for outdoor antenna recomendations.


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    If your satellite dish mount has a view of the northwest I'd say a Channel Master CM2016 would be a good choice. You would want to point it toward 332 degrees magnetic. I would think that your local CW (WBKI 34.1) would come in on the back of the antenna. The only real issue with replacing a dish with an OTA antenna is if there is a switch in the system. If so, it needs to be replaced with, probably in your case, a barrel connector.

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    Heather's location clearly has three directions to consider. However, I'm not too sure that the CM-2016 is going to work well, trying to pick up the CW station from it's rear. I have it at 9db F/R VHF rejection. Maybe a Winegard HD1080 may be a better choice without the shielding on the back. Then, possibly a second antenna for the ION. The Antennacraft Y5-7-13 is the smallest one I have listed for that.

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    Channel Lineup:
    WBNA - Ion
    , qubo, GOD TV/The Light, RTV - Not on same heading as others but strong enough it shouldnt matter. Ion is available on W50CI if problems with this station.
    WDRB - Fox, Antenna TV
    WMYO - MyNetwork, My Family TV, CW - CW is a 720p HD simulcast of WBKI
    WAVE - NBC, This TV, Bounce
    WLKY - CBS, Me-TV
    WHAS - ABC, WHAS 11 StormTeam Weather, WHAS 11 First Alert Weather Radar
    WBKI - CW - Not needed due to WMYO simulcast, also not on same heading as other stations, fairly likely to still be receivable anyway
    WKPC - PBS, PBS Encore, Kentucky Channel
    WKMJ - PBS Encore, Kentucky Channel, World
    WWJS
    - Indiana 9 [Independent]
    WKYI - WKYI-TV 24 [Independent]
    WJYL - 4x Religious
    W50CI - Ion, HSN, Religious - Ion simulcast from WBNA
    WBXV - MTV2 [Not Currently Broadcasting - I am unsure if will convert to digital, assuming unlikely]

    NOTE:
    Grey denotes that station is not on same heading.
    Make sure the antenna is pointed in the direction of Floyds Knobs, IN - approximately 332 degrees magnetic from your location.


    I would suggest a small-medium combination antenna. dkreichen1968's suggestion is likely to work well.
    nbound-au is a qualified Antenna, Satellite, and MATV installer.

    I live in DVB-T land.


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    Thanks for the replies.

    So yesterday, I went to Wal-Mart and bought some cheap rabbit ears for the heck of it. Here is what I bought. [URL=http://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-UHF-VHF-Indoor-Antenna-with-Fine-Tuning/20976671[/URL] Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive. I plugged it in and it immediately "found" 13 channels. However, only 5 of them were visible. Perhaps I could have played around with the "ears" and such and had better luck. Is this the kind of antenna that Fringe Reception was referencing? Is there another indoor option that may work better? But, I also know that we're not going to want to make adjustments each time we turn the channel. I want the convenience of an indoor, but the reception of an outdoor. I'm probably dreaming

    Back to installation...as mentioned in my first post...Will we be able to unplug the cable from the Dish, and just attach that same cable to the antenna, unplug from the Dish box and plug into our tv, or is it more complicated than that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather Dugas Mann View Post
    Back to installation...as mentioned in my first post...Will we be able to unplug the cable from the Dish, and just attach that same cable to the antenna, unplug from the Dish box and plug into our tv, or is it more complicated than that?
    The only real issue with replacing a dish with an OTA antenna is if there is a switch in the system (it looks like a combiner that combines mutiple cables from the dish into one cable to run to the TV). If so, it needs to be replaced with, probably in your case, a barrel connector since you only need one line into the house.



    The other issue is whether the current dish location has a view to the northwest where the majority of your TV broadcast towers are located.
    Snappy Dan Reminds You:

    DO NOT install antennas anywhere where they could fall into overhead power lines!!! An antenna falling into power lines may result in electrical shock or death. All outdoor antennas must be grounded in accordance with the National Electrical Code (NEC). Be careful while working on roofs or towers. Always use appropriate safety precautions!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by dkreichen1968 View Post
    The only real issue with replacing a dish with an OTA antenna is if there is a switch in the system (it looks like a combiner that combines mutiple cables from the dish into one cable to run to the TV). If so, it needs to be replaced with, probably in your case, a barrel connector since you only need one line into the house.



    The other issue is whether the current dish location has a view to the northwest where the majority of your TV broadcast towers are located.
    Thank you for that. Sorry, I am a technical illiterate trying to understand all of this! I am fine with all of the tv's receiving OTA channels, just thought it would be more difficult. In terms of cable lines, the cable from the satellite runs down the house, there is a hole drilled in the brick, and then it all runs into the basement. I have been unable to find the end point in the basement, but my husband probably knows where to look. I'm just hoping that he won't have to drill more holes, run more cable, etc. Make sense?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heather Dugas Mann View Post
    Thanks for the replies.

    So yesterday, I went to Wal-Mart and bought some cheap rabbit ears for the heck of it. Here is what I bought. [URL=http://www.walmart.com/ip/RCA-UHF-VHF-Indoor-Antenna-with-Fine-Tuning/20976671[/URL] Not the cheapest, but not the most expensive. I plugged it in and it immediately "found" 13 channels. However, only 5 of them were visible. Perhaps I could have played around with the "ears" and such and had better luck. Is this the kind of antenna that Fringe Reception was referencing? Is there another indoor option that may work better? But, I also know that we're not going to want to make adjustments each time we turn the channel. I want the convenience of an indoor, but the reception of an outdoor. I'm probably dreaming

    Back to installation...as mentioned in my first post...Will we be able to unplug the cable from the Dish, and just attach that same cable to the antenna, unplug from the Dish box and plug into our tv, or is it more complicated than that?
    Rabbit ears are all but useless, except in the absolute best locations, Ideally you want to mount the antenna outside, or at the very least in the attic if the roof type is relatively transparent to TV signals (ie. not metallic).

    Besides what is actually convenient about having an indoor antenna, an outdoor one is essentially set-and-forget.
    nbound-au is a qualified Antenna, Satellite, and MATV installer.

    I live in DVB-T land.


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    Need to bite the bullet and order the antenna. Planning to go with the Channel Master CM2016. Trusting the advice of a couple of you here. Any other opinions?

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    I would personally use either the HBU-22 or ANT-751 to reduce the possibilty of VHF multipath issues. The VHF performance on either of these is far superior to the CM 2016.
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