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Old 05-16-2009, 07:31 AM   #1 (permalink)
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I feel for the homeless. It's an unfortunate situation, but often a choice.
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One of the hundreds of old and storied single-room residential hotels still operating in this city, the Alder boasts no kitchens, forcing all who live here to scramble for cheap prepared meals on the outside, mostly fast food. Tenants share bathrooms located in the hallway, incurring long waits for showers and other urgent matters. A bed-bug infestation currently has people reeling.
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Formerly homeless, Morgan said television is his lifeline.

“I want to know what’s going on in the world,” Morgan said. “I have that right. We pay rent here, we should feel comfortable here.”
Shouldn't they be focusing on who to contact for help to become self sufficient? Finding someone to educate and train them in helping them find work? Where to get a healthy meal? Rehabilitating them into society? Not focusing on the fact their rabbit ears will no longer work
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Old 05-16-2009, 08:49 PM   #2 (permalink)
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TV is a luxury, not a necessity. The "We should feel comfortable here" comment irks me and I realize that it's only one homeless man's thoughts. Making people feel comfortable with a place to sleep and eat is what's important.

So many other important things going on in the world to donate to other than this.
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Old 05-17-2009, 02:07 AM   #3 (permalink)
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I agree. Television is surely not a right. The airwaves are a national resource that get used in the best interests of the public as a whole, not for each citizen individually.

They charge money to get into national parks, too, now, y'know.
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Old 05-17-2009, 04:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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As many as 700,000 Americans are homeless on any given night. An estimated 20 to 25 percent of these people have a serious mental illness, and one-half of this subgroup also have an alcohol and/or drug problem. Minorities, especially African Americans, are over-represented among homeless persons with mental illness.
That is approximately 1 in 4 homeless people with mental illness problems.

I fail to see the logic in your question, "Shouldn't they be focusing on who to contact for help to become self sufficient?" because it expresses the idea that homelessness can be cured with education and or technical skills. If (insert the name of a supreme being or beings here) created us all equally, you would have a better case for your argument.

I'm a little more sympathetic because I used to volunteer at shelters. It's not always a choice to be homeless.
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SAMHSA supports programs to assist people with mental illnesses who are homeless in obtaining treatment and other services such as primary health care, substance abuse treatment, legal assistance, entitlements, and other supports, while making the transition from homelessness.
Do you see the logic now? Read the information in your link. The above quote is an excerp from SAMHSA. Oh and by the way. I was homeless for 5 years of my life. I met many, many people and yes it was a choice. I also volunteered my time and service to soup kitchens although I've never taken advantage of their services. And finally my question was "Is DTV reception a right or a privilege
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That is approximately 1 in 4 homeless people with mental illness problems.

I fail to see the logic in your question, "Shouldn't they be focusing on who to contact for help to become self sufficient?" because it expresses the idea that homelessness can be cured with education and or technical skills. If (insert the name of a supreme being or beings here) created us all equally, you would have a better case for your argument.

I'm a little more sympathetic because I used to volunteer at shelters. It's not always a choice to be homeless.
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Do you see the logic now? Read the information in your link. The above quote is an excerp from SAMHSA. Oh and by the way. I was homeless for 5 years of my life. I met many, many people and yes it was a choice. I also volunteered my time and service to soup kitchens although I've never taken advantage of their services. And finally my question was "Is DTV reception a right or a privilege
based on my experience, I do not think homelessness is a choice for most of those who live in shelters/the street. It's just a matter of differing opinions. Entertainment can definitely improve moral during tough times.
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I want to offer just one thing for consideration. For some people, TV is the only entertainment available, except for a radio maybe. They don't have families or friends, and they don't have the money or resources to go out. I know this isn't easy for those who don't have these problems or who are very active to understand, but TV is the only salvation and piece of entertainment in this world for a lot of people. As of June 12, even that may go away. People need to have something.
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The attempt to cast television entertainment as a necessity of life is a gesture in vain. It isn't. There are many channels by which people can gain entertainment. And there is no obligation implicit on any one of those channels to ensure that their offerings are available to all.

Despite that, television reception is a necessity, but (only) because it provides local news and weather. However, the government has provided $40 coupons to households who took the time to request them, to ensure all households that wanted to bridge the gap could.

You can try to make the case for the difference between the price of CECBs and the coupons, but you'd fail: The government, the representatives of the people, has determined that there is no such case to be made. It's a bit like saying that someone that you think did something illegal, but was acquitted of the crime, is a criminal: It's a falsehood, a scurrilous accusation that feeds only one's frustration, not truth.
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You can try to make the case for the difference between the price of CECBs and the coupons, but you'd fail: The government, the representatives of the people, has determined that there is no such case to be made.
There are many converter boxes available now that sell for the same price as the coupon. In reference to the homeless: how do they ask for a coupon without a home address?
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The attempt to cast television entertainment as a necessity of life is a gesture in vain. It isn't. There are many channels by which people can gain entertainment. And there is no obligation implicit on any one of those channels to ensure that their offerings are available to all.

Despite that, television reception is a necessity, but (only) because it provides local news and weather. However, the government has provided $40 coupons to households who took the time to request them, to ensure all households that wanted to bridge the gap could.

You can try to make the case for the difference between the price of CECBs and the coupons, but you'd fail: The government, the representatives of the people, has determined that there is no such case to be made. It's a bit like saying that someone that you think did something illegal, but was acquitted of the crime, is a criminal: It's a falsehood, a scurrilous accusation that feeds only one's frustration, not truth.
Well, all I can say is that I think that is a very cruel and harsh attitude to have. One can only hope that you never know what it's like to be in the position of one in need of simple things for survival. If you walked those shoes, you might think definitely.
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