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Old 07-29-2009, 10:24 AM   #11 (permalink)
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Right-wing values are basically the opposite of left-wing values, whatever those are. Thus things like "not breathing in toxic fumes" are something the left likes, so that's something the right opposes.

Note that I said "the right" and not "conservatives." Two different groups of people.

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I don't know, Dora the Explorer has to me the same teaching skills one would use on a Parrot.
I think you're considering Dora the Explorer from the context of children far older than those whom I believe the program is aimed at. They don't say definitively, allowing anyone to watch who wishes to, but for the age I believe the program is aimed at, I believe you're completely off-base with your appraisal.
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Left/right arguement aside isn't it still all about what happens in your home and via your parenting?
And by that logic, the criticisms, above, are really quite inappropriately presented, since they're making categorical condemnations rather than clearly indicating that they're just stating the decision that they wish to make for their own family, but still respecting other families to make other decisions. As a matter of fact, I believe that sort of thing is one of the lessons that Dora the Explorer tries to teach children.
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I suspect that you are ideologically driven and Trip has just been brainwashed by PBS shows and media and the education system.
I find your comment about Trip, to be abusively offensive. I'll draw the distinction (which some people either deliberately or carelessly missed in that other thread) between labeling a comment that someone makes as ridiculous, and what you've done here, asserting that someone has been "brainwashed". You should be ashamed of yourself. Your behavior in this case is inexcusable.

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Right-wing values are basically the opposite of left-wing values, whatever those are. Thus things like "not breathing in toxic fumes" are something the left likes, so that's something the right opposes.
I think that doesn't do either side justice, but is especially unfair to the "right". The left-wing perspective would oppose any pollution that presents any probability of any health risk, whatsoever, while the right-wing perspective would be that all life contains a measure of risk, and it is fair to balance risk and benefit.
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And for the record, the opposition to Multiculturalism is not "teaching hatred to children."
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Actually, effectively it is. Opposing the concept of living in harmony with people who hold to other perspectives is the same as supporting the concept of not living in harmony with people who hold to other perspectives.
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I think that doesn't do either side justice, but is especially unfair to the "right". The left-wing perspective would oppose any pollution that presents any probability of any health risk, whatsoever, while the right-wing perspective would be that all life contains a measure of risk, and it is fair to balance risk and benefit.
I had a whole response typed up, and then I remembered that I said I wasn't going to stir the pot. I'm already too involved, so I'm removing myself from the conversation.

I am very opinionated and thus try not to get involved in these things if I can help it.

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Right-wing values are basically the opposite of left-wing values, whatever those are. Thus things like "not breathing in toxic fumes" are something the left likes, so that's something the right opposes.

Note that I said "the right" and not "conservatives." Two different groups of people.

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Actually Trip, Conservative values are not the opposite of Leftwing values.

Western Conservative values are often Leftwing (depending upon where one stands). Especially American Conservative values.

A great example would be wars that the US has fought in defense of liberty and the promotion of democracy. Often opposed by teh Leftist (New Left, Marxist, Neo Marxist) reactionaries.

What it basically boils down to is that the Western Left, the New Left, the Neo Marxists, Communists, etc are anti Western (the West being defined as Conservative culture and values by definition).

They promote the destruction of Western Civilization through a plethora of agendas and tactics. Thus they apologize for Islam and attack Christianity. If you dont believe me or that Im overstating the case....just look at Leftwingers discussing the Christian Right in the US and then discussing Islam. This battle is being waged via immigration now (since the 60s), destroy the Western peoples and their culture by importing new voters and pushing the victimization narrative to keep them voting Left, as they promise special protections, preferences and benefits for them and promote their cultures over the once majority population.

This is the wholesale destruction of Western Civilzation, a full scale full court press war on the West.

These are the enemy group that are the targets of the Western Left and their friends around the world seek to destroy...

Whites, Westerners, Europeans, Christians, Males, Heterosexuals

Any group in opposition to these groups is to be favored over these groups. The above groups have been the subject of sustained organized villification for at least a half a century by the Western Left (since the 60s).

PBS kids shows are merely a reflection of this agenda. Promoting others cultures over the Wests.
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Actually, effectively it is. Opposing the concept of living in harmony with people who hold to other perspectives is the same as supporting the concept of not living in harmony with people who hold to other perspectives.
That is not what multiculturalism is of course. Its about driving the dominant culture to the side and promoting other cultures over it.

If its just about getting along, then I would be all for it. However its not just about getting along. Its about replacing one culture and promoting others over it.
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