Mobile TVs with Built-in ATSC tuners (Official Thread)

[Jay]

       

Originally Posted by Lurker Lee

Yes, I saw the other thread, but thought the "mobile" part meant for use in a moving vehicle or one that ran on a cell phone. I'm not planning on using a tv in either of those ways, so just sort of skimmed it. I was just kind of hoping that more tvs had been released. (And how come there don't seem to be any of the walkman style ones that ran on AA or was it AAA batteries. That would do for me in a power outage. Of course the old analog one I bought never worked particularly well, but I assumed that was because it was an "open box".) Thanks for the response.

Can't imagine why there aren't more on the market and with an AA / AAA option. It's not like an ATSC tuner requires more power to run than the older NTSC handhelds...I'm not 100% sure about that though.

With the digital transition rendering millions of handhelds useless, mobile tv companies have a completely clean slate and HUGE potential customer base available right now.

Just a little note about battery performance and power consumption from the Wiki entry for Mobile TV Standards:

1. Power Consumption: Battery technology for mobile portable devices may be stuck in a race condition. Improved battery life can be used up by the upgraded mobile content and enhanced functions. However, dashtop mobile devices can also be powered by a 12-volt vehicle battery, however vehicle batteries are not a sustainable source of power for mobile devices.

[1inxs]

       

Originally Posted by Jay

Found another mobile TV at Amazon w/digital tuner that uses a lithium-ion battery.

Viore PLC7V95 7-Inch Portable LCD TV with Built-in Tuner

Key Features:
7-Inch widescreen active matrix TFT screen
Integrated ATSC digital tuner for digital broadcast reception
External rod antenna provided for over-the-air signal reception
Audio/Video inputs for connection to external Audio/Video source
Audio output for connection to external audio systems
Built-in stereo speakers
Earphone output for private listening
Large capacity rechargeable Li-battery
USB Port & Card Slot for playing digital media file
Closed Caption and Parental Control supported
Card style full function remote control

Specifications:
Audio/Video Input
Audio Output
Earphone Output
Antenna Input
Mini USB
3-in-1 Card Reader
12V DC Input for AC-DC Adapter
Input Voltage for AC – DC Adapter: 90 ~ 240V
Power Consumption: Less than 15W
Unit Dimensions (W x H x D): 8.7" x 5.1" x 1.2"
Unit Weight: 1.3 lbs



I searched around; there doesn't seem to be a bunch of options available right now. Have you seen TonyT's thread here? http://www.dtvusaforum.com/everythin...-standard.html I'm not sure how the cell phone industry is tackling the battery life issue when TV phones hit the market in full swing, but as of right now, all of the handheld ATSC TVs at Amazon.com (as you mentioned) are rechargeable, and last only 1.5-2.5 hours after a charge. Purchasing a second Li-ion battery might be an option for you, but not very cost effective.

This looks like a nice start on the ATSC mobile TVs. I'm going to have to put this one on my list of things to try. My old Casio was a great little gadget.
Maybe when DTVUSA traffic gets back up where it belongs, this could be the next contest grand prize

[DTVuser2009]

Be careful of some new tech products, including TVs. some have what are known as 'non-removable lithion-ion batteries' which is definite planned obselescence of a product, meaning that once the batteries are at their end of life (won't hold adequate charge to be useable) the tech product requires a new replacement.

The iPods, some portable brand new TVs/portable DVD players, and cameras have fallen victim to this practice which is becoming a new trend. don't buy into it and it will stop. people drive the progress of tech and don't let non-removable batteries catch on!

[1inxs]

Originally Posted by DTVuser2009

Be careful of some new tech products, including TVs. some have what are known as 'non-removable lithion-ion batteries' which is definite planned obselescence of a product, meaning that once the batteries are at their end of life (won't hold adequate charge to be useable) the tech product requires a new replacement.

The iPods, some portable brand new TVs/portable DVD players, and cameras have fallen victim to this practice which is becoming a new trend. don't buy into it and it will stop. people drive the progress of tech and don't let non-removable batteries catch on!

There is no such thing as non-removable when it comes to tech gadgets. It's not what you know it's who you know. But I agree, for the average consumer you need to consider these factors when purchasing electronic gadgets.

[DTVuser2009]

Currently i don't know anyone who can replace an iPod Touch battery without rendering the gadget a bent up metal mess. and battery replacement places here won't touch them fearing legal allegations from Apple. so when the battery dies, that's it.

The average consumer throws things out for things like that even if it were doable. we've become far too happy with throwing things out when they still work, and making gadgets like that further exasperate the problem.

[HTNut]

       

Originally Posted by DTVuser2009

Currently i don't know anyone who can replace an iPod Touch battery without rendering the gadget a bent up metal mess. and battery replacement places here won't touch them fearing legal allegations from Apple. so when the battery dies, that's it.

The average consumer throws things out for things like that even if it were doable. we've become far too happy with throwing things out when they still work, and making gadgets like that further exasperate the problem.

You can replace the batteries yourself - Lifehacker - How to replace your iPod's battery - Battery but like you said, it's not exactly easy.

I'm the biggest offender of selling electronic componenets on Ebay or trading them out online after a few years. Gotta have the latest and greatest.

[HTNut]

The one thing I read about the Axion AXN-8701 is that it only holds a charge for 100 minutes, and if you use the cigarette lighter that came with it and plug it in, it only provides power, it won't recharge the battery.

[Jay]

Originally Posted by Lurker Lee

Yes, I saw the other thread, but thought the "mobile" part meant for use in a moving vehicle or one that ran on a cell phone. I'm not planning on using a tv in either of those ways, so just sort of skimmed it. I was just kind of hoping that more tvs had been released. (And how come there don't seem to be any of the walkman style ones that ran on AA or was it AAA batteries. That would do for me in a power outage. Of course the old analog one I bought never worked particularly well, but I assumed that was because it was an "open box".) Thanks for the response.

Lee, found one that uses AA batteries.

Tivax HiRez7 Portable 7-Inch Digital Widescreen LCD TV

7" Widescreen LCD Digital TV
Can use both antenna and cable
Includes two rechargeable Li-ion batteries up to 1.5-hour usage
Built in stereo speakers
Will work with alkaline batteres


Amazon.com: Tivax HiRez7 Portable 7-Inch Digital Widescreen LCD TV: Electronics

[1inxs]

Originally Posted by Jay

Lee, found one that uses AA batteries.

Tivax HiRez7 Portable 7-Inch Digital Widescreen LCD TV

7" Widescreen LCD Digital TV
Can use both antenna and cable
Includes two rechargeable Li-ion batteries up to 1.5-hour usage
Built in stereo speakers
Will work with alkaline batteres


Amazon.com: Tivax HiRez7 Portable 7-Inch Digital Widescreen LCD TV: Electronics

It looks like Tivax is thinking of everything with the release of this one. The release date is July 27, 2009. It says it can be used as an external monitor for DVDs. It won't be long before these are incorporated into automotive audio/video systems. One like this with an 11" drop down would be sweet in a Chevrolet Tahoe or Avalanche.

[Jay]

       

Originally Posted by 1inxs

It looks like Tivax is thinking of everything with the release of this one. The release date is July 27, 2009. It says it can be used as an external monitor for DVDs. It won't be long before these are incorporated into automotive audio/video systems. One like this with an 11" drop down would be sweet in a Chevrolet Tahoe or Avalanche.

Did you see the built-in card reader (SD/MS/MMC) too? Not a bad option for ATSC, but truthfully, I'd wait until ATSC-MPH devices come out.