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Old 05-26-2009, 12:32 PM   #11 (permalink)
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One other nuance about the noise: It is short-lived. It whirs for about 15-25 seconds and than tapers off.
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Old 05-27-2009, 07:52 AM   #12 (permalink)
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One other nuance about the noise: It is short-lived. It whirs for about 15-25 seconds and than tapers off.
Definitely sounds like a fan or something mechanical. That's one of those where, if you bring it in to get it looked at by a tech, it's minimum $100 just to crack it open and diagnose. Does it run real hot? I'd be a little concerned with not enough heat dissipation (if it is the fan), if you're still using it for now?

Are you looking for Sony products only? I've seen some great deals on 2008 Pioneer receivers.
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Old 05-27-2009, 08:03 AM   #13 (permalink)
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I've been looking at Samsung too, but I haven't found a comparable receiver.

Do note that we never listen to the radio. Ever. I always have to do a double-take when shopping, because these devices are listed as "receivers" but, as far as I'm concerned, they aren't "receiving" anything. We are simply looking for a Blu-Ray player, and a 5.1 surround sound system to connect at least three HD video + DD5.1 audio devices (the Blu-Ray player, our TiVo S3, and maybe one or two others). If it tunes in radio stations, we'll never notice. The problem I've seen is that when you start looking for units that don't have radio tuners, the units get more expensive, not less expensive.
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I've been looking at Samsung too, but I haven't found a comparable receiver.

Do note that we never listen to the radio. Ever. I always have to do a double-take when shopping, because these devices are listed as "receivers" but, as far as I'm concerned, they aren't "receiving" anything. We are simply looking for a Blu-Ray player, and a 5.1 surround sound system to connect at least three HD video + DD5.1 audio devices (the Blu-Ray player, our TiVo S3, and maybe one or two others). If it tunes in radio stations, we'll never notice. The problem I've seen is that when you start looking for units that don't have radio tuners, the units get more expensive, not less expensive.
A receiver without a tuner is more of an amplifier, but you can't really classify it as an amplifier because they switch between inputs. There probably needs to be another classification added to this field of electronics.

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I've never seen an amplifier, though, with as many inputs and outputs as the receivers I listed above, for less money than the receivers I listed above.
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I know you haven't mentioned Harmon Karden receivers, but I thought I'd mention something about them based on my past experience. I've owned 2 HK receivers in the past 8 years, (one a hand me down from my dad), and both went out within a matter of 4 years of the original purchase date. It's odd, but both receivers had the same problem of not being able to find audio on certain inputs. The problem started off as intermittent (which would be corrected by turning the power off and on), but then progressively got worse.
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We currently have a Samsung HT-Q40. I think it is three years old, but it seems older. I know, when we bought it, we were thinking that Blu-ray was coming, so we didn't want to spend a lot on a home theater system. By the same token, we never needed much more than the HT-Q40 -- it served our needs very well. We are only considering replacing it now because I hear a very high-pitched whine coming from it whenever I turn it on.

There are things that we would prefer it do. First, while DVDs look great on my 50" DLP, I suspect with up-scaling they could look better. Second, we currently have only one HDMI device, and even if we had two, our HDTV has two HDMI inputs. However, at one point in the past, we had two HD DVRs (i.e., two HDMI inputs), so if we had also gotten a BD player at that time, we would have had an issue. (Of course, we could have just used the component video inputs for one of the input devices. There is no noticeable difference between component input and HDMI input.)

These consideration are not worth replacing the unit. However, if that high-pitched whine turns into system failure (and wouldn't you expect it to?), then we'll be scrambling for a replacement.

So my questions to you:

1) Is that high-pitched whine something you know about? Is it a certain death knell? Is it cheaply repairable?

2) We're considering the following replacement options. What are your opinions:
a) Sony HTSS360 Home Theater System + Sony BDP-S360 1080p Blu-ray Disc Player
b) Sony BDV-E300 Home Theater System with Blu-ray Disc Player (coming out next month)
c) The Samsung comparables to (a) (but, while I can find a Samsung comparable for the Blu-ray Disc Player [BD-P1600], I cannot find a comparable for the home theater system. Your suggestion?)

We don't specifically want Blu-ray (we think that the media costs far more, to purchase or even just rent from Netflix, to warrant the added price, given how good DVDs look), but at this point we don't think it makes sense to buy something that doesn't have a Blu-ray player. I expect media prices to fall in the next few years.

As I mentioned before, we do want up-scaling.

One thing that really has me avoiding this purchase if at all possible is that we don't need new speakers, but it seems that every inexpensive system comes with speakers. If we can just use the existing speakers with the existing wires, already run around the room, that's what we're going to do.
Made a decision yet Bic?
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Unfortunately, we haven't gotten enough input to make a decision. In the interim, I have thrown more requirements into the mix -- my wife is hearing impaired and so there are closed captioning support considerations. Also, I've come to the conclusion that we do need new speakers. The ones we bought in 2006 were really cheap (I think the whole HT system, with 5 DVD carousel and 5.1 speakers, was less than $200), and a few recent programs have shown some limitations of the speakers. So we'll likely stick with a full HT system, with speakers, even if they have proprietary connectors, thereby requiring us to run new wire around the room; again we have the luxury of being able to easily do so because of the room's shape and position of the television and doorways.

I have been posting this around on some of the Home Theater forums:
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Does anyone have any insights on whether it is worth waiting for the BDV-E300 versus just buying the HTS-S2300+BDV-S360 now?

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So at least I'm narrowing things down (not really considering the Samsung, anymore), though to be honest, bad news about the Sony's capabilities could derail my whole Sony strategy.
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Unfortunately, we haven't gotten enough input to make a decision. In the interim, I have thrown more requirements into the mix -- my wife is hearing impaired and so there are closed captioning support considerations. Also, I've come to the conclusion that we do need new speakers. The ones we bought in 2006 were really cheap (I think the whole HT system, with 5 DVD carousel and 5.1 speakers, was less than $200), and a few recent programs have shown some limitations of the speakers. So we'll likely stick with a full HT system, with speakers, even if they have proprietary connectors, thereby requiring us to run new wire around the room; again we have the luxury of being able to easily do so because of the room's shape and position of the television and doorways.

I have been posting this around on some of the Home Theater forums:
So at least I'm narrowing things down (not really considering the Samsung, anymore), though to be honest, bad news about the Sony's capabilities could derail my whole Sony strategy.
Not sure if you've seen this yet, but HomeTheaterMag did a review on the BDP-360 this month Home Theater: Sony BDP-S360 Blu-ray Player

What's the bad news about the Sony?
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Yes, that's my question.
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