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Old 05-24-2009, 03:49 AM   #1 (permalink)
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We currently have a Samsung HT-Q40. I think it is three years old, but it seems older. I know, when we bought it, we were thinking that Blu-ray was coming, so we didn't want to spend a lot on a home theater system. By the same token, we never needed much more than the HT-Q40 -- it served our needs very well. We are only considering replacing it now because I hear a very high-pitched whine coming from it whenever I turn it on.

There are things that we would prefer it do. First, while DVDs look great on my 50" DLP, I suspect with up-scaling they could look better. Second, we currently have only one HDMI device, and even if we had two, our HDTV has two HDMI inputs. However, at one point in the past, we had two HD DVRs (i.e., two HDMI inputs), so if we had also gotten a BD player at that time, we would have had an issue. (Of course, we could have just used the component video inputs for one of the input devices. There is no noticeable difference between component input and HDMI input.)

These consideration are not worth replacing the unit. However, if that high-pitched whine turns into system failure (and wouldn't you expect it to?), then we'll be scrambling for a replacement.

So my questions to you:

1) Is that high-pitched whine something you know about? Is it a certain death knell? Is it cheaply repairable?

2) We're considering the following replacement options. What are your opinions:
a) Sony HTSS360 Home Theater System + Sony BDP-S360 1080p Blu-ray Disc Player
b) Sony BDV-E300 Home Theater System with Blu-ray Disc Player (coming out next month)
c) The Samsung comparables to (a) (but, while I can find a Samsung comparable for the Blu-ray Disc Player [BD-P1600], I cannot find a comparable for the home theater system. Your suggestion?)

We don't specifically want Blu-ray (we think that the media costs far more, to purchase or even just rent from Netflix, to warrant the added price, given how good DVDs look), but at this point we don't think it makes sense to buy something that doesn't have a Blu-ray player. I expect media prices to fall in the next few years.

As I mentioned before, we do want up-scaling.

One thing that really has me avoiding this purchase if at all possible is that we don't need new speakers, but it seems that every inexpensive system comes with speakers. If we can just use the existing speakers with the existing wires, already run around the room, that's what we're going to do.
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Old 05-24-2009, 10:47 AM   #2 (permalink)
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We don't specifically want Blu-ray (we think that the media costs far more, to purchase or even just rent from Netflix, to warrant the added price, given how good DVDs look), but at this point we don't think it makes sense to buy something that doesn't have a Blu-ray player. I expect media prices to fall in the next few years.
Just a note on Blockbuster, we switched from Netflix to Blockbuster in April because there's no surcharge or extra fees on Blu-Ray rentals at the store and/or online. Included in the price you get a couple of vouchers for renting from the store too which cuts on costs compared to what we were paying at Netflix.
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The cost difference between the BDV-E300 and BDV-E500W is less than $200, might be something to look into. Only reason why I suggest is the rear speakers on the BDV-E500W are wireless (if that's a problem for you). Not a lot of information available yet about these 2, but the BDV-E500W looks like it has 2 towers for front speakers.
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We have no problem wiring to rear speakers. Our room is shaped like a backwards C, with the television at the top, and wall all the way around to the back wall.
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Sony's new HTIBs interface with their blu-ray drives pretty well (they should anyway of course), but one thing to note about the HTSS360 which is a big deal breaker for me, is that it it's speakers are connected with a special connection for only Sony receivers. Not a big deal if you never plan on using these speakers with a different receiver, but my house is hard wired for the rear speakers and I've yet to see any adapters made so that I can utilize my wiring. Not sure if the BDV-300 is going to be the same way. The HTSS360 is around $300 now which is an incredible deal considering what you get.

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Great review here if you haven't seen it - Review: Sony BDP-S300 Blu-ray Player : Home Theater Blog | Home Theater News & Reviews

Some bad points from the review:

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It looks as if the BDV-S300 isn’t HDMI 1.3 equipped after all. This post from A/V Magazine (Italian) clearly shows a Silicon Image SiI9030 chipset which is HDMI 1.1 only
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Yesterday afternoon we went out and purchased ‘Ghost Rider’ on BD (One of the few BD’s with a TrueHD track) and you guessed it, the BDP-S300 in its current state doesn’t decode the track.

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We currently have a Samsung HT-Q40. I think it is three years old, but it seems older. I know, when we bought it, we were thinking that Blu-ray was coming, so we didn't want to spend a lot on a home theater system. By the same token, we never needed much more than the HT-Q40 -- it served our needs very well. We are only considering replacing it now because I hear a very high-pitched whine coming from it whenever I turn it on.


These consideration are not worth replacing the unit. However, if that high-pitched whine turns into system failure (and wouldn't you expect it to?), then we'll be scrambling for a replacement.
Is the whining noise coming directly from the receiver itself or is it heard coming from your speakers? Or both?
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The whining noise is coming directly from the receiver. It doesn't seem electronic at all.

The news about the speaker connections is a bit distressing... as I mentioned, I really don't want to mess with my speakers, and of course, what guarantee is there that the BDV-S300 will have rear speaker wires long enough? It probably won't, since my room is so long.
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The whining noise is coming directly from the receiver. It doesn't seem electronic at all.

The news about the speaker connections is a bit distressing... as I mentioned, I really don't want to mess with my speakers, and of course, what guarantee is there that the BDV-S300 will have rear speaker wires long enough? It probably won't, since my room is so long.
You could have the infamous ground loop problem. It's an easy fix with a $20-$50 ground loop isolator, but if you get a minute search: ground loop humming noise receiver.
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I am pretty sure that that is not it. The sound is mechanical, not electronic. It isn't a hum, but rather a whirring sound, as something makes when it is spinning but up against some resistance that it wasn't designed-for.
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I am pretty sure that that is not it. The sound is mechanical, not electronic. It isn't a hum, but rather a whirring sound, as something makes when it is spinning but up against some resistance that it wasn't designed-for.
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