I'm taking down all info, so thanks for that. I have a good patio/balcony for trying this so I'm not excluding any possibilities at this point. Still finding "virtual channels" such a trip, you get such odd stuff on those, or at least I'm finding it that way here on a few in this area. Good stuff, buried on like a virtual channel x.3 or the like, such as Reno911 or Dave Chappelle which I never expected to see without cable or satellite, so I am enjoying what little I do get, at least