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Old 08-22-2009, 08:25 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Went to Best Buy this morning and priced out a few TVs. There's like a $350 price difference now between similar sized LCDs and whether they can do 720p resolution or 1080i/1080p. They were trying to show me what the difference was but I couldn't tell on a 52" TV until they started playing a Blu-ray DVD on the 1080p. Is going to 1080i really worth the $350??
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Old 08-22-2009, 10:31 AM   #2 (permalink)
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It might be worth it if you think you'll be watching a lot of Blu-ray movies. Otherwise, not so much.
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Your observation was pretty much on point. If you play a BluRay disk into a new TV, it's obvious if it has 1080p.

Otherwise, I too don't see the difference in 1080i and 720p systems. For a 1080i system to work it has to have more pixels than a 720p TV. But even on a good 1080i LCD or Plasma something happens that maybe hard to follow depending on your background in TV that does render little difference.

On a tube TV back in the 480i days. The station transmitted 60 fields a second, making that into 30 frames per second. Each field had every other line in the image. The persistence of the phosphors in the tube would "hold" the previous field of odd lines while the next field of even lines were swept to the screen. Your eyes and the tube would "merge" the two fields into a frame (all 480 lines), which is what you would perceive, not the individual fields (of 240 lines). (Yes those that really know TV some of the lines are used for other things, but keeping it simple, ok?).

Now bring in the LCD TV. The LCD turns off and on rapidly and has no persistence to speak of to the human eye. This is not a problem with 720p. And standard that is a p, means progressive scanning and there are no fields, only frames. Or you could say the fields equal the frames. So viewing a 720p image on an LCD TV that is 720p, you will have 720 lines top to bottom on the screen. There is no interlacing of odd and even lines. LCDs were made for progressive scanning.

Now lets push a 1080i image on a LCD screen. LCDs won't persist and your eye would see flickering if they tried to do that. So inside the TV there is a circuit that takes, the odd and even fields of any i type signal (480i or 1080i) and converts them into progressive scans. So even though 1080i has 60 fields a second, the circuit in the LCD TV converts that to 30 frames a second to show on the LCD.

Then if you buy a 1080i TV, because it's LCD, it still can do interlace. So it too must convert the 1080i to 1080p, but with half the resolution of real 1080p to show on the screen.

So really unless you have money to burn, to me it's not worth buying a 1080i TV. Now upgrading to 1080p if you have a Blu Ray or other 1080p source then yes, that is worth the money if you want to spend that much for that resolution.

So your eyes told you the story I just explained technically.
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There are a lot of great charts that pretty much show the answer to what you're asking, graphically. They're all pretty much the same as each other, so you can rely on their accuracy to an extent.

Here's one:

http://lh3.ggpht.com/arizcale/RkukLN...Guidelines.jpg

Keep in mind that the distance you're concerned about is from where the screen would be (not the back of the television or the wall behind the television) to your eyes (not the front of your couch or the wall behind you).

We're about 9' from our 50" television now; so we're just at the point where 1080p is essential. As long as you're sitting significantly further from the screen than we are, then you can probably settle for a 720p display.
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I hate when that happens. Here's a web page hosting a great chart for this:

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We're exactly 7.5' away from our TV but we may be looking at bigger houses next year. Appreciate all of the recommendations. According to that chart I'm right at about 720p/1080p viewing distance right now. Wonder why they don't show 1080i viewing distance? I'm really trying to keep our budget below $1,500 but it seems like every time I start reading about a TV, there's some new option or must have item that I need to think about.
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I don't think that there are many 1080i displays left... most I've seen this year are either the low budget 720p displays or the mainstream 1080p displays.
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