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[QUOTE=&quot;JER, post: 33261, member: 4529&quot;]If we all really stop and think about it, I believe we will come to realize that the current situation isn't the result of any one particular president or political party or company or industry. Instead, its the collective result of decades of voting (or in many cases not voting) by ALL Americans. When I say voting, I don't just mean the votes we cast at the ballot box. Each and every time we buy a product or service we are VOTING! The results of that daily election are abundantly clear: The vast majority of Americans have, for a very long time now, voted for cheaper products; regardless of what fraction of their total value (not just manufacturing) was created here in the USA.At this point, I'm sure someone on this forum is thinking that they are surely not in that majority because they go out of their way to buy 100% American made products - regardless of how much it costs - every time they make a purchase. To folks in this small minority I ask: Please tell me how your run your companies? My companies they say? I'm not a business owner. Oh, but yes you are. Don't you have a 401k or IRA with stock and mutual funds? Now, tell me did you or would you vote your shares to keep manufacturing or engineering or a call center in the US if it meant you didn't get as good a return your hard earned dollars? Based on what I've seen on Wall Street for the last 50 years I'm guessing that the answer is NO and you voted in your own greedy self-interest. Why not? It wasn't you that was getting hurt when all those jobs got moved overseas, or was it?Ultimately the blame for this situation belongs to the person each of us sees in the mirror in the morning when we get out of bed. With that in mind perhaps we can all step down from our respective soap boxes and engage in a meaningful dialog on how and why we should change things. In the meantime its probably best if we put our stones down too. You see we're all living in the same glass house.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="JER, post: 33261, member: 4529"]If we all really stop and think about it, I believe we will come to realize that the current situation isn't the result of any one particular president or political party or company or industry. Instead, its the collective result of decades of voting (or in many cases not voting) by ALL Americans. When I say voting, I don't just mean the votes we cast at the ballot box. Each and every time we buy a product or service we are VOTING! The results of that daily election are abundantly clear: The vast majority of Americans have, for a very long time now, voted for cheaper products; regardless of what fraction of their total value (not just manufacturing) was created here in the USA. At this point, I'm sure someone on this forum is thinking that they are surely not in that majority because they go out of their way to buy 100% American made products - regardless of how much it costs - every time they make a purchase. To folks in this small minority I ask: Please tell me how your run your companies? My companies they say? I'm not a business owner. Oh, but yes you are. Don't you have a 401k or IRA with stock and mutual funds? Now, tell me did you or would you vote your shares to keep manufacturing or engineering or a call center in the US if it meant you didn't get as good a return your hard earned dollars? Based on what I've seen on Wall Street for the last 50 years I'm guessing that the answer is NO and you voted in your own greedy self-interest. Why not? It wasn't you that was getting hurt when all those jobs got moved overseas, or was it? Ultimately the blame for this situation belongs to the person each of us sees in the mirror in the morning when we get out of bed. With that in mind perhaps we can all step down from our respective soap boxes and engage in a meaningful dialog on how and why we should change things. In the meantime its probably best if we put our stones down too. You see we're all living in the same glass house.[/QUOTE]

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