Bruce Eisen of Dish Says That Hulu Will Kill Pay-TV

MrPogi

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SWEET! What a sock puppet: some quotes from the article: (emphasis added by me)
“If I can watch Glee tomorrow morning and I don’t have to pay a pay TV service –- I think that’s bad,” Eisen said during a panel about cord cutting at the Streaming Media West conference this morning.
The model of sites like Hulu that make catchup content available immediately isn’t benefiting the industry, he said, adding that broadcasters should instead reserve catchup episodes for authenticated TV Everywhere services, and only make them available freely after 30 days. “If people decide that they don’t have to pay for pay TV, then one of the pillars (of the TV industry) starts crumbling,” he said.
What a tool. Glee is FREE OTA, I can freely record it for playback, (though some would argue only on a betamax!) It's same concept as HULU, only on a server. As for the second quote I emphasized, well... they're not so much pillars, as iron bars, yea?

" Hulu Is Destroying the TV Industry" says Bruce Eisen... wrong, its destroying the PAY TV industry. The BROADCAST TV industry is just fine, thank you.
 
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dkreichen1968

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Well, Bruce Eisen has the most to lose. His company only offers video service. He can't make it back up on internet. So, of course he's the one running around with his hands in the air screaming that the end of the world is coming. Maybe the end of his business model is coming!!!
 

MrPogi

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Well, Bruce Eisen has the most to lose. His company only offers video service. He can't make it back up on internet. So, of course he's the one running around with his hands in the air screaming that the end of the world is coming. Maybe the end of his business model is coming!!!
It sure could put a big dent in his business. But there will always be those who will pay for the convenience. They don't want to watch it on the computer, and many are challenged by the task of hooking up their computer to their TV. As for OTA, too many people have been brainwashed by pay tv to think there is no other way to get tv but to pay. An example is the DISH ad I saw the other day: "Many people with HD TVs are not watching in HD" ... and of course, they go on to push their "Free HD for life". Sadly, MY offer of FREE HD for life (No bills, no contract - ever) goes unadvertised because it has an advertising budget of bupkis. Some people can't handle also the simple antenna install. I have a couple I met on my blog that I set up - looked up their TVfool, told them what to get, and how to do it. Simple install: remove dish, move J-pipe up 15 feet, attach antenna and cable, BAM! 17 channels plus subs (Oh, to have such a TVfool myself!) They bought the stuff, and hubby got as far as getting the dish off the J pipe before giving up in frustration! I will be installing it for them tomorrow :) .

I noticed the link you gave has video from "Cable Cutters", a show on the net about not paying for TV. I like! But they tend to concentrate on the video-over-internet model: You still wind up paying. I do like having the 'net for video (I love me my Netflix!) but figure it costs me about $50 with the cost of internet and Netflix. I can justify it as I need the internet anyway. But a lot of folks don't have - or don't need/want - broadband. In the end, I prefer OTA TV. Just a better product: Price, quality of product, and convenience.
 

dkreichen1968

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It sure could put a big dent in his business. But there will always be those who will pay for the convenience.
But, will there be enough to make Bruce Eisen's business model work. You have to have a lot of subscribers to pay for a satellite.

"Many people with HD TVs are not watching in HD" ... and of course, they go on to push their "Free HD for life". Sadly, MY offer of FREE HD for life (No bills, no contract - ever) goes unadvertised because it has an advertising budget of bupkis.
Dish spends $400 million a year to make people believe they need to pay to get HD. So far it seems to have worked.

Some people can't handle also the simple antenna install. I have a couple I met on my blog that I set up - looked up their TVfool, told them what to get, and how to do it. Simple install: remove dish, move J-pipe up 15 feet, attach antenna and cable, BAM! 17 channels plus subs (Oh, to have such a TVfool myself!) They bought the stuff, and hubby got as far as getting the dish off the J pipe before giving up in frustration! I will be installing it for them tomorrow :) .
If women don't find you handsome, they should at least find you handy!

But a lot of folks don't have - or don't need/want - broadband.
Right, which is one of the things that Blair Levin pointed out in the interview I posted. But, people will subscribe to pay-TV because it doesn't take any thinking or special knowledge to watch.
 
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Dish Network wants 30 day Hulu delay for new episodes

Dish Network wants 30 day Hulu delay for new episodes | MyCE – My Consumer Electronics

From the article:

"Instead of blaming factors like their own failure to evolve and lengthy network blackouts due to contractual disputes, the executives at Dish Network have decided to blame internet TV service Hulu for their decline in subscribers.

In a panel about consumers giving up pay TV services at this week’s Streaming Media West conference, Dish Network VP of Online Content Development and Strategy Bruce Eisen voiced his opinion that Hulu is making it too easy for people to watch new network programming, thus giving them less incentive to pay." ...
 

MrPogi

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Again, the blame game. Almost anything I want on hulu, I could get OTA. If I can't watch it today, I can record it for later.

Isn't that what I can do with HULU?
 

Yes616

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I have been playing with Hulu a little earlier today. The picture I am getting there is nowhere near as good as the real TV thing.

I'll stick with my satellite dish and OTA antenna.
 

MrPogi

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I have been playing with Hulu a little earlier today. The picture I am getting there is nowhere near as good as the real TV thing.

I'll stick with my satellite dish and OTA antenna.
Exactly. Hulu is intended to help you catch up on those shows you may have missed. It's not intended as replacement for pay or free tv, but a supplemental service.
 

n2rj

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Exactly. Hulu is intended to help you catch up on those shows you may have missed. It's not intended as replacement for pay or free tv, but a supplemental service.
Some people don't see it that way. Some people think it's a cable TV subscription replacement. Guess what? It's not. Why would the owners of Hulu shoot themselves in the foot?
 

MrPogi

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I know these providers are searching for a way to provide their content and still get paid for it. Commercials have increased on hulu because of this... and I'm good with that. It's a reasonable price to pay for me to see programming - and if cable would adopt ala cart pricing, I - and others - would be more willing to pay cable companies for what we watch. I hate paying for something I don't use.
 

DanB_DISH

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Exactly. Hulu is intended to help you catch up on those shows you may have missed. It's not intended as replacement for pay or free tv, but a supplemental service.
I agree with this Hulu is great but it's not meant as a substitute. One thing I would like to add is that DISH now offers the Logitech Revue. This will allow you to enjoy DVR integration to stream movies through Hulu or Netflix. This is already compatible with the 722/722k model receivers.

Daniel Busa
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