I bought a new HDTV 19" Tosihba with built in DVD player a few weeks before the switch so I would not have to mess with a converter box. The TV I had was just fine but didn't want another box. I also have a 9 year old hooked up to a digital vcr/dvd recorder with digital turner, getting all the stations great. Have a 6 year old hooked up to a converter, getting all the stations. The problem is the brand new TV, cannot get channel 2,4-5 (in Los Angeles area)Gets the digital station 7-9-11-13 just great. Went back to Best Buy no one could answer my questions as to why a brand new TV won't work. They sold me an RCA flat antenna with amplyfier and assured me it would do the trick. Well, it didn't so took it back. Very frustrated and decided to hook the second converter box to see what happens. Well, I now get all the channels no problem. Now deciding if I should take the TV back. If I have to use the converter I might as well have kept my old 13' with built in VCR. I have two roof top antenna approx. 8 or more years old. Any ideas out there as to why my Brand new TV has to have a converter box? The instructions on the TV says it has a built in digital turner. Any suggestions.