DVR reciever and OTA Programs

#1
Ok gotta question is there a way to record OTA received through a converter box to a dish network dvr receiver If I drop my local from dish network I can't get them to record on my DVR
 

kaye

DTVUSA Jr. Member
#2
I think this is a question that you are going to need to ask the Satellite company.I know things like this can be touchy but I am sure that it can be handled.
 

spokybob

DTVUSA Member
#4
I do not subscribe to DISH locals. I do have a 622DVR with an antenna input. I use a manual timer for recording. There is no guide for my channels. No need for a convertor box either. Menu 6 - 9- Scan locals. I use a zap2it website for program info. Hope this helps.
 

Piggie

Super Moderator
#5
There was a lot of discussion about this very thing with Dish DVRs and Tivo DVRs in the Gainesville FL local thread on AVS you could scan or join AVS and post there. Mahy were in on the discussion (I wasn't) but one fellow Nobleach has straight up answers on stuff like that. I do remember some of them work if you use the timer, and it seems someone had problems with some model because they didn't get the guide not subscribing. I think there final solution too was timed recording.
 
#6
I don't understand the question. when i had Dish they gave you locals for free. so why drop them in the first place? second i don't think the DVR has an A/V in to facilitate a converter box, only A/V out. seems if they did have A/V inputs the DVR-capability would be exploited without benefit to Dish, who truly owns the receivers and rents them to the user. so i doubt they'd let you record from any input, much less a converter box. otherwise you'd have people recording their PC data to it and using it with their TV and many other exploits. i think it would also violate Dish Network terms, customer or not.
 

1inxs

DTVUSA Member
#7
Ok gotta question is there a way to record OTA received through a converter box to a dish network dvr receiver If I drop my local from dish network I can't get them to record on my DVR
I believe you could continue to use a DirecTV DVR without subscribing to their service and I think there are a couple of the old SD Dish Network DVRs that will continue to work without subscribing to their service as well.

From spokybob's post it appears the answer is yes. You'll just need to make sure you have the Dish Network 622DVR receiver or similar.
 
#8
Every time i tried to put an old non-activated DVR receiver up soon as it got its satellites it would lock me out. as in no program guide, and no TV, not even local, no input, and a screen ordering me to phone Dish Network. when and or how did you get them to work with OTA?

If that's possible now i'll pick up one second-hand and use my converter with it; would be cheaper than the DTVPal DVR.
 

Yes616

The Mod Squad
#9
It is my understanding that if you do subscribe to Dish without locals and you have a ViP series DVR, you can scan for locals OTA and get whatever is out there but..

NO PROGRAM GUIDE LISTINGS

So here you have to manually enter what you want to record.

If you don't subscribe to anything, forget about it. It won't work at all. You will just be stuck at the set up / actiavte screen.

spokybob has it right.

Once you show has recorded you may add a title for it at that time.
 

1inxs

DTVUSA Member
#10
It is my understanding that if you do subscribe to Dish without locals and you have a ViP series DVR, you can scan for locals OTA and get whatever is out there but..

NO PROGRAM GUIDE LISTINGS

So here you have to manually enter what you want to record.

If you don't subscribe to anything, forget about it. It won't work at all. You will just be stuck at the set up / actiavte screen.

spokybob has it right.

Once you show has recorded you may add a title for it at that time.
I think spokybob wrote, he doesn't subscribe to Dish, but he is able to record the locals. He uses zap2it for program schedule info to use his unactivated dish 622DVR for recording the programs.
 

Yes616

The Mod Squad
#11
I do not subscribe to DISH locals. I do have a 622DVR with an antenna input. I use a manual timer for recording. There is no guide for my channels. No need for a convertor box either. Menu 6 - 9- Scan locals. I use a zap2it website for program info. Hope this helps.
I think spokybob wrote, he doesn't subscribe to Dish, but he is able to record the locals. He uses zap2it for program schedule info to use his unactivated dish 622DVR for recording the programs.
It looks to me that spokybob does subscribe to Dish but not the locals. That is the way I read his comment.

Only he can clear this up.
 

spokybob

DTVUSA Member
#12
It looks to me that spokybob does subscribe to Dish but not the locals. That is the way I read his comment.

Only he can clear this up.
Correct. I pay DISH a lot of money every month. But I do not subscribe to their locals. That would cost me another 5 and their locals are NOT HD yet. When the DISH locals are offered in HiDef, I may subscribe on a trial basis. That would give me the option of recording two local programs at the same time. (I think).

At the present time, I can record a local OTA program, then use an indoor antenna hooked to my HDTV antenna1 connection to watch another OTA. See the attachment pic.
 

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Jason Fritz

Administrator
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#13
Correct. I pay DISH a lot of money every month. But I do not subscribe to their locals. That would cost me another 5 and their locals are NOT HD yet. When the DISH locals are offered in HiDef, I may subscribe on a trial basis. That would give me the option of recording two local programs at the same time. (I think).

At the present time, I can record a local OTA program, then use an indoor antenna hooked to my HDTV antenna1 connection to watch another OTA. See the attachment pic.
$5/month and no HD would be a tough sell for me too. For that price you ought to get subchannels too.

btw, what was the answer to the WOF puzzle? :)
 

1inxs

DTVUSA Member
#14
Correct. I pay DISH a lot of money every month. But I do not subscribe to their locals. That would cost me another 5 and their locals are NOT HD yet. When the DISH locals are offered in HiDef, I may subscribe on a trial basis. That would give me the option of recording two local programs at the same time. (I think).

At the present time, I can record a local OTA program, then use an indoor antenna hooked to my HDTV antenna1 connection to watch another OTA. See the attachment pic.
spokybob, Thanks for clarifying that point.
 
#15
Must've changed policies. whenever i had Dish they gave you the locals for free(on plans starting at $39/mo). before then people found ways of using an OTA antenna on the 'Cable/Ant' port on the receiver and had it 'pass-through' the receiver by turning it off.
 

Yes616

The Mod Squad
#17
Correct. I pay DISH a lot of money every month. But I do not subscribe to their locals. That would cost me another 5 and their locals are NOT HD yet. When the DISH locals are offered in HiDef, I may subscribe on a trial basis. That would give me the option of recording two local programs at the same time. (I think).

At the present time, I can record a local OTA program, then use an indoor antenna hooked to my HDTV antenna1 connection to watch another OTA. See the attachment pic.
Food for thought.

Even though Dish doesn't give you your HD locals, if you did pay the extra $5 for locals, you would get all the digital channels show up in your program guide. That OTA tuner also counts as another tuner within a tuner so if you have a dual tuner ViP722, for example, you could record 3 shows all at the same time. 2 via Dish and 1 OTA. Or just watch one and record two in any combination I just mentioned. I can even get program guide info for channels from another DMA that I can receive OTA. Yes it's kind of like just paying $5 for the OTA info in this case.
 
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