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Message: [QUOTE="Piggie, post: 40746, member: 2941"]Well this is some evidence that my input without test equipment and the suggestions of Cowboy on using a YA-1713 with an XG91 as being the best systems a great deal of credence. A few known conflicting data to Nist (though I love his work, so Ken if you read this thank you for your work and publishing) are the YA-1713 and the 7698P.  I know numerous people that have used both antennas without finding the weak bandwidth of limitation of some channels Ken's modeling suggests. This goes back to reading about early modeling software in the 1980s, though I am sure current modeling software if far superior but the same thing holds true about an antenna.  The early users of computer modeling all said you often had to "tweak" the computer model to get it optimized in the real word.It still comes down doing real world tests.[/QUOTE]