I can't have an outdoor antenna; would you look at my tvfool info?

junkTV

DTVUSA Jr. Member
#1
So, I went the other day and bought the best TV I could possibly afford, which wasn't so great, but it's at least an SDTV.

I also purchased a "good" indoor antenna that the salesperson insisted would work "fine" for me.

I basically can't get much more of anything than what I had on my crappy 15-year-old analog set with rabbit ears. I can pick up maybe a couple stations' virtual channels, perhaps one other one, but that's about it. So, I still have less than about ten watchable channels, and this is really annoying.

Here's my point: I live in an apartment. There is no "shared" master antenna thing. People who can afford it get a satellite and attach it to their patios and such. **Obviously I can't go erecting a big outdoor antenna, so, I don't know how the situation is going to get a lot better.** My coupon for my analog TV (assuming it arrives and is not rejected at the store, like I've heard some say) is supposed to come around March 27th.

Here is my situation I am dealing with. Not a lot of big stations in this immediate area, please have a look at tvfool to see my circumstance, my zip is 75601.

Yes, a couple of those are close, but they aren't worth a hoot stations. I don't know what to do. I'm disabled, can't get out of the house, and am stuck here. I can't afford cable or I'd already have it. I was optimistic about the whole change, thinking it might help those of us who didn't have much money so that we could also enjoy television, but it doesn't look like this is going to worth anything, seeing as how in my area, an indoor antenna is only going to do so much. I guess I could always choose between cable and my food/medications, huh. (signed, Bitter...)

But if possible do look at my info on tvfool, zip 75601 and see what you think, I'd appreciate it. (Because I certainly can't make sense of it; I just know that I'm not getting more than a handful or so of channels.) Thanks !
 

#40Fan

DTVUSA Member
#2
If you could do me a favor, go to tvfool.com and enter your address as well as your zip code. Then, when it shows the Signal Analysis click on the "Post Transition - Only Digital".

After the new Analysis shows up, right click on the "radar" view and select properties. A new box will pop up. About half way down it says "Address". Highlight everything to the right of it, right click again and copy, and come back here.

Type in the following without the quotes and ofcourse not the stuff in the middle of the IMG. "
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Right click and paste the address that you copied.
 
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#40Fan

DTVUSA Member
#3
Oh, and where in your apartment can you install the antenna? As is what direction will it most likely be facing and how far off of the ground.
 

junkTV

DTVUSA Jr. Member
#4
Thanks for having a look, and I wasn't sure which image you needed so I stuck all of 'em up here.... :)

As far as my indoor antenna, it likely will be in western-most part of the apartment, and typically facing west, though I don't mind a bit of moving it around some if needed.



 

Aaron62

Contributor
Staff member
#7
An indoor antenna isn't going to cut it for you when you're 20 miles away, unless you try something like the Antennas Direct DB2. It's the only one that might pick up a few channels out of that lineup, but you've got some major obstacles to overcome.
 

#40Fan

DTVUSA Member
#8
Thanks for having a look, and I wasn't sure which image you needed so I stuck all of 'em up here.... :)

As far as my indoor antenna, it likely will be in western-most part of the apartment, and typically facing west, though I don't mind a bit of moving it around some if needed.



That is exactly what I needed you to post. I was worried that I mgiht have messed up my instuctions.

From what I see, for you to be able to pick up 10 channels right now, you are doing good!! Leave that antenna where it is at. Wait for the converter box to show up and plug everything in. Then see what happens. Might be surprised what the extra power of the box will bring it.

On another note, if I were you I would see about the chances of getting a community antenna erected. I'll supply the viagra. ;) Just kidding.

Let us know how things go and I hope to hear that on March 28th after you have purchased your converter box that things are going good for you.
 

junkTV

DTVUSA Jr. Member
#9
Really do appreciate the comments and advice. I did get my coupons for my converter boxes, and I wasn't planning on getting a box for my new tv, but hey, they'll be cheap. Might as well try, and no doubt someone would need it later if I didn't.

If I don't freaking freak the freak out and just say hey, I've been needing to go on a diet lately, and finally break down and get a satellite service :)

I do indeed get a few stations, believe it or not. Although the few analog channels you can pick up here have been dropping like flies... fortunately they popped right up on digital, so that's cool.
 
#10
mount a antennas direct 91-xg on the balcony and tilt it up 15 degrees to shoot over the obstacles. for those stations that are 1 edge. a Antenna craft U8000 will do for the LOS stations. problem is to get all you will need to turn the antenna to lock the signals which would mean a rotator. ok there is a cheap little antenna from Lava that works good for LOs has built in rotator and pre amp you could try it LAVA A-2605 from www.summittsource.com my mom gets good service on stations 65 miles with it
 
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junkTV

DTVUSA Jr. Member
#11
I'm taking down all info, so thanks for that. I have a good patio/balcony for trying this so I'm not excluding any possibilities at this point. Still finding "virtual channels" such a trip, you get such odd stuff on those, or at least I'm finding it that way here on a few in this area. Good stuff, buried on like a virtual channel x.3 or the like, such as Reno911 or Dave Chappelle which I never expected to see without cable or satellite, so I am enjoying what little I do get, at least :)
 

TonyT

DTVUSA Member
#12
I'm taking down all info, so thanks for that. I have a good patio/balcony for trying this so I'm not excluding any possibilities at this point. Still finding "virtual channels" such a trip, you get such odd stuff on those, or at least I'm finding it that way here on a few in this area. Good stuff, buried on like a virtual channel x.3 or the like, such as Reno911 or Dave Chappelle which I never expected to see without cable or satellite, so I am enjoying what little I do get, at least :)
Chappelle show is absolutely funny. Nothing you want to watch with the kids. ;) What are virtual channels?
 

FOX TV

Contributor
#14
Can't have an outdoor antenna? Maybe you can !!

you only have 7 channels LOS (line of sight). Everything else is getting blocked.
Sorry, but I don't really understand your 7 channels number. I looked up the 75601 zip code on TVFOOL, and I count 17 LOS (Line of Sight) channels unless you are only counting the higher signal levels only.

Granted some of the signal levels are low on a lot of them, and an indoor antenna obviously will not receive them all, but If conditions on the patio are right, I believe at least 10 of them may be receivable.

There is a way to have an outdoor antenna if your patio happens to face in the direction of the transmitters, and this can possibly work even if it does not face exactly in that direction.

You could take a 5 gallon bucket and plant a pole in it and fill it with gravel or poor it half full of concrete and erect a compact outdoor UHF antenna on the pole, and more than likely improve your reception to a satisfactory level. This setup also allows for easy rotation of the antenna instead of mounting it rigid in case it needs to be rotated regularly.

Even getting any type of antenna outdoors will likely improve your chances of better reception. If you are getting any channels at all on an indoor antenna, this setup may improve things greatly, as outdoor antenna designs normally have much more signal gain than most all indoor antenna designs due to size and design constraints. I would mount an Clear Stream C2 UHF, or other compact UHF antenna on that pole and see what happens.
 
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BCF68

DTVUSA Member
#15
Sorry, but I don't really understand your 7 channels number. I looked up the 75601 zip code on TVFOOL, and I count 17 LOS (Line of Sight) channels unless you are only counting the higher signal levels only.

Granted some of the signal levels are low on a lot of them, and an indoor antenna obviously will not receive them all, but If conditions on the patio are right, I believe at least 10 of them may be receivable.

There is a way to have an outdoor antenna if your patio happens to face in the direction of the transmitters, and this can possibly work even if it does not face exactly in that direction.

You could take a 5 gallon bucket and plant a pole in it and fill it with gravel or poor it half full of concrete and erect a compact outdoor UHF antenna on the pole, and more than likely improve your reception to a satisfactory level. This setup also allows for easy rotation of the antenna instead of mounting it rigid in case it needs to be rotated regularly.

Even getting any type of antenna outdoors will likely improve your chances of better reception. If you are getting any channels at all on an indoor antenna, this setup may improve things greatly, as outdoor antenna designs normally have much more signal gain than most all indoor antenna designs due to size and design constraints. I would mount an Clear Stream C2 UHF, or other compact UHF antenna on that pole and see what happens.
Any reason why you bumped a 10 month old thread? I'm petty sure he solved his issue one way or another by now.
 
#16
Any reason why you bumped a 10 month old thread? I'm petty sure he solved his issue one way or another by now.
You know, people do happen to search on the internet and find threads like this one here. So if someone like Fox is adding valueable information to a thread that may not benefit you or me, but maybe a guest, then why ask why?
 

Piggie

Super Moderator
#17
Any reason why you bumped a 10 month old thread? I'm petty sure he solved his issue one way or another by now.
There is no forum policy against bumping back old threads.

And it may be some help to someone just lurking the forum at any point in the future even if the OP has solved his problems.
 

FOX TV

Contributor
#19
There is no forum policy against bumping back old threads.

And it may be some help to someone just lurking the forum at any point in the future even if the OP has solved his problems.
My main intent was to outline the mast pole in a bucket setup as is done quite often with DirecTV dishes in this area exclusively for apartment / patio use. If a thread is out of date and you do not want further posts, then simply delete it, or close it.

If I see open ended post, I will reply, and to speculate that he has solved the problem by now is just that; speculation. Who is to say that my answer did not provide an idea for someone else who may be facing his very same issue, as most people do not know about the federal regulations that allow antenna installations in a leased or rented residence.

The mast pole in a bucket is a good and cheap solution that a lot of people could utilize if they only knew about it, especially when considering a compact UHF only antenna.
 
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