I thought I was the only one!
Thanks for posting this. I have an analog Channel master meter model 7277-c and find the needle pinpoints signal very well. It still works for antenna selection and location of the aerial installation. Thanks again. The only problem is finding how low in the minus reading is the minimum for an acceptable level? In other words what minus reading is the zero d.b. in the analog world of good level to shoot for?
EV:
Glad to hear that you like Salvati's book; it's one of my favorites.
Do you mean FS-3?
I have found that an old TV field strength meter can be very useful when comparing antennas. The newer models are called a signal level meter (SLM). The reading of a digital signal on an old FSM will not be exactly the same as the reading on a signal level meter designed for digital signals, because the analog meter is designed to measure the peak value of the signal. The meter for digital signals is designed to measure the average value of the digital signal.
When I use my Sadelco 719E meter to measure a digital signal I turn on the audio to listen to the carrier. Its a rushing noise that sounds like white noise (or intercarrier noise between FM stations if the tuner does not mute). The digital signal nearly fills the whole 6 MHz channel, but I fine tune the meter to about 1/3 or 1/2 the channel width up from the bottom to avoid the pilot carrier at the lower end, which would give a false reading.
I often also have my Apex DT502 CECB connected with a splitter and watch the signal QUALITY bar when aiming an antenna because the best quality signal isn't always at the same azimuth as max signal strength because of multipath reflections. This is another example of signal quality (related to BER) being just as important as signal strength with digital signals.
If you read the Aussie DTV forums (they have had a longer experience with their DVB-T digital, especially with many antennas in the outback) you will see it said that you shouldn't hire an antenna installer unless he uses a BER meter to aim your antenna.
How closely to two meters agree depends upon the individual calibration of each meter. I have compared a Sadelco 719E analog meter with a Sadelco DisplayMax 800 designed for analog and digital signals and they are, by chance, fairly close:
Old TV field strength meter any good? - AVS Forum
But, when comparing antennas, aiming an antenna, or finding the best location for an antenna the absolute calibration is not as important as the linearity of the meter when making comparisons. The linearity can easily be checked by inserting the 20 dB attenuator to see if the new reading is 20 dB lower.
Actually, I prefer to use the needle of an analog panel meter to the digital readout meter when aiming an antenna.
Glad to hear that you like Salvati's book; it's one of my favorites.
Do you mean FS-3?
I have found that an old TV field strength meter can be very useful when comparing antennas. The newer models are called a signal level meter (SLM). The reading of a digital signal on an old FSM will not be exactly the same as the reading on a signal level meter designed for digital signals, because the analog meter is designed to measure the peak value of the signal. The meter for digital signals is designed to measure the average value of the digital signal.
When I use my Sadelco 719E meter to measure a digital signal I turn on the audio to listen to the carrier. Its a rushing noise that sounds like white noise (or intercarrier noise between FM stations if the tuner does not mute). The digital signal nearly fills the whole 6 MHz channel, but I fine tune the meter to about 1/3 or 1/2 the channel width up from the bottom to avoid the pilot carrier at the lower end, which would give a false reading.
I often also have my Apex DT502 CECB connected with a splitter and watch the signal QUALITY bar when aiming an antenna because the best quality signal isn't always at the same azimuth as max signal strength because of multipath reflections. This is another example of signal quality (related to BER) being just as important as signal strength with digital signals.
If you read the Aussie DTV forums (they have had a longer experience with their DVB-T digital, especially with many antennas in the outback) you will see it said that you shouldn't hire an antenna installer unless he uses a BER meter to aim your antenna.
How closely to two meters agree depends upon the individual calibration of each meter. I have compared a Sadelco 719E analog meter with a Sadelco DisplayMax 800 designed for analog and digital signals and they are, by chance, fairly close:
Old TV field strength meter any good? - AVS Forum
But, when comparing antennas, aiming an antenna, or finding the best location for an antenna the absolute calibration is not as important as the linearity of the meter when making comparisons. The linearity can easily be checked by inserting the 20 dB attenuator to see if the new reading is 20 dB lower.
Actually, I prefer to use the needle of an analog panel meter to the digital readout meter when aiming an antenna.