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[QUOTE=&quot;n2rj, post: 79702, member: 5768&quot;]You can ask when you arrest someone for another crime or based on reasonable suspicion (a warrant might be required).If everyone were simply able to say &quot;I'm a citizen&quot; then even the border patrol would be able to arrest no one.In fact for every crime if people could simply say, &quot;I'm innocent&quot; and walk away no one would get arrested for anything.Traffic stops are what they want to target. If a cop stops someone for a traffic violation, then asks to search their car based on reasonable suspicion, such as an open container in the car, smell of weed etc they could make an arrest then ask for their ID. Usually people consent to having their car searched as there is really little other choice because the cop isn't just going to let you go if you say no.By the way, lying to the police or immigration is one of the worst things you can do if you ever want to have any chance of being legal, amnesty or not. A lot of immigrants (legal and illegal) choose not to lie about their status to the authorities as a result.[/QUOTE]

[QUOTE="n2rj, post: 79702, member: 5768"]You can ask when you arrest someone for another crime or based on reasonable suspicion (a warrant might be required). If everyone were simply able to say "I'm a citizen" then even the border patrol would be able to arrest no one. In fact for every crime if people could simply say, "I'm innocent" and walk away no one would get arrested for anything. Traffic stops are what they want to target. If a cop stops someone for a traffic violation, then asks to search their car based on reasonable suspicion, such as an open container in the car, smell of weed etc they could make an arrest then ask for their ID. Usually people consent to having their car searched as there is really little other choice because the cop isn't just going to let you go if you say no. By the way, lying to the police or immigration is one of the worst things you can do if you ever want to have any chance of being legal, amnesty or not. A lot of immigrants (legal and illegal) choose not to lie about their status to the authorities as a result.[/QUOTE]

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