Which hi-VHF channels are you trying to receive?
OK, here's my situation. My New Years resolution is to upgrade the second half of my antenna setup, like I said I would over a year ago. You might remember that I have a CM-4221HD indoors, pointed north toward Milwaukee. I also have a goofy little Monoprice "omnidirectional" antenna, enclosed in plastic, with a home brew tin can reflector, pointed south toward Chicago. The 4221HD goes in through the coax connector on back of the TV. The Monoprice goes in to a converter box, then into the RCA jacks on front of TV.
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Rough guess on how much signal I lose by being indoors, with only east facing windows: about 45 dB
in either direction!!
I get everything from Milwaukee above NM=34 (the green), and everything from Chicago above NM=40, very reliably. The four channels I want, or want more reliably are:
11 PBS(RF47) NM=39 from Chicago
49 CBS/IND(RF48) NM=31 from Milwaukee -- good IND stuff on 49.1
10 PBS(RF8) NM=31 from Milwaukee
2 CBS(RF12) NM-30 from Chicago. No subchannels.
11 PBS should be no problem with a decent antenna pointed at Chicago. I get it close to half the time already.
Might have to give up on 49 CBS/IND, since my good 4221HD is pointed at Milwaukee already. Only thing might be to get it closer to the east facing window. It's about 30 inches away perched on top of a desk. Maintenance guy already complains the desk is too close to the window -- hard to get to the air conditioner.
Assuming I can get 11, 10 PBS becomes less important -- two PBS stations is probly enough. I rarely get 10 PBS now, and never get 2 CBS. Since I already get CBS on channel 58 (RF46), the two VHF stations are my least important, although Channel 2 news has a history for me.
Anyone think 2 (RF12) would come in with this Hoverman? AntennaCraft 4 Bay UHF Antenna HDTV Outdoor TV Aerial for Local Off-Air Digital HD Four Bay Signal Fringe Reception, LIGHT GREEN ZONE, Part # G1483
I thought if I could get a bidirectional VHF with directional UHF antenna, maybe I could get 11, 10 and 2 in one shot. Then I could also try pointing the 4221HD at Chicago and the other at Milwaukee, in hopes of snaring 49.
But more and more I go back to the Hoverman, which is dirt cheap on Summit Source. If the Hoverman gets nothing on VHF, then I can try adding VHF elements later. I'm thinking I could put it right in the middle in front of either antenna, and get added gain from the directionality. So ultimately I might wind up with two UHF and two VHF antennas. (Gilda Radner voice: "It could happen.")
Antennas that I eliminated from my search, due to high price and/or limited UHF or VHF functionality:
Stellar Labs Model #30-2440 combo UHF/VHF -- just a little too long to install inside.
Audiovox/RCA ANT751R -- UHF gain probably no better than my Monoprice/tin can.
Winegard HD-1080 Not good for Hi VHF.
Winegard Squareshooter Too expensive! Looks like my MonoPrice.
ClearStream C2-V-CJM Too expensive. $67.49 used very good. $65 open box on eBay.
ClearStream 5 C5 Not too big, but way too expensive! Doesn't do much on UHF.
Winegard FreeVision FV-30BB or FV-HD30 Poor gain on UHF according to the chart I downloaded.
The Y5 and Y10 7-13's -- 5 and 10 feet long. Way too big for me.