Violent Games

dreamr802

DTVUSA Member
#1
Do you let your children play violent games like Halo and similar games? My parents had an easy time with us because none of us really liked those games, we liked the racing ones and ones that weren't shooting...if your kid wants to play Halo how do you prevent him from playing when they are at a friend's house?
 
#2
Heck in my day (1980s) Nintendo's Duck Hunt was a 'violent' game due to the nature of shooting alone, being a First Person Shooter, albeit a primitive one. but in the list of #1 violent games Doom was king. but it didn't make me want to go shoot people. i think a lot of that nanny crap from parents has no real purpose. better to have the kids shoot digital people than get out and on drugs and shoot real people.
 

TonyT

DTVUSA Member
#3
I've got kids so I look into these things a bit more. ;)

Researchers at the Indiana University School of Medicine say that brain scans of kids who played a violent video game showed an increase in emotional arousal – and a corresponding decrease of activity in brain areas involved in self-control, inhibition and attention.
Does game violence make teens aggressive? - On the Level- msnbc.com

We have a few games that might be considered a bit more violent, but nothing like the Grand Theft Auto series. Mostly karate/fist fighting games. Just my thoughts here, but as long as you have some kind of a moral structure at home, and the kids understand that they're playing a game, most video games are not any worse than TV on a Sunday night.
 
#4
I have to agree with you on this one TonyT especially being a parent myself. As long as our children grows with the right morale and principles and they will always know what is right and what is wrong (I know this is probably impossible but at least on the level of killing, it should be fairly easy to decide), then a certain degree of violence in video games should not hurt. I just can't imagine seeing my young one play GTA though. That would definitely put me to shame if that happens anytime soon.
 

cronus

DTVUSA Member
#5
I don't have any problem with violent video games. This supposed violence will always be present somewhere, and children cannot be shut off from the world. Part of a child's development is the ability to seperate fantasy from reality. Let them play!
 
#6
The world is violent. if kids don't learn at a young age that it's not all Sesame Street and Unicorns, they might as well not learn at all. they need to be taught young that the world isn't the peaceful utopia that preschool PBS teaches them. be prepared. through games, TV, or reality itself.

When i was young i was taught the worst thing a parent could ever do to a child is denying them that knowledge.
 
#7
I love violent games. I was used to it. With a common sense, you should know what is real and fiction. Been playing since i was 3 and still a gamer. Never did i try to shoot somebody just to justify i saw it on a video game lolz.
 

Aaron62

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#8
The world is violent. if kids don't learn at a young age that it's not all Sesame Street and Unicorns, they might as well not learn at all. they need to be taught young that the world isn't the peaceful utopia that preschool PBS teaches them. be prepared. through games, TV, or reality itself.

When i was young i was taught the worst thing a parent could ever do to a child is denying them that knowledge.
Anybody remember Wolfenstein 3D? First person Nazi shooter, lol.

DTV, it's not that I don't agree with you somewhat, but I just don't think it's a good idea to teach kids about violence by having them act out to it in a video game. Teaching them about it in school (ie WW1, WW2, etc) is much different.

That said, I don't think violent movies or games should be cut out completely. If I had a kid, I wouldn't want him playing Grand Theft Auto. That's for sure.
 
#9
Heck i'm 30 and i won't touch GTA with a 10-foot pole. but i have no problem with a kid wanting to play Deer Hunter 5 or Doom 2.

Or my favorite sim, Secret Weapons of the Luftwaffe. back before the World Wide Web, i could easily kill 24 hours playing that game lol of course those three games today are ancient compared to new ones.

But they were fun. i just never could get into those MMORPGs for many reasons, one as i hate the stupid 'leek speak' (like pw3ned) and the immature attitudes. i played games to have fun not be an idiot over the wire. plus they always cost money to play, considering the game costs about $59 it seems hard to justify paying $12/mo just to be in a game's version of Myspace.
 
#10
Yes, violence is always there- I agree.
But that does not me wanting my kids playing such aggressive games.

I am on the lucky side with this. Because my kids play settlement games. Building up new colonies and working as a farmer are the games they like most.

And paying fees for an online game was easy to get by. We told them to pay it theirselves. A month without money in the hands took this problem off:playball:
 
#11
Yes, violence is always there- I agree.
But that does not me wanting my kids playing such aggressive games.

I am on the lucky side with this. Because my kids play settlement games. Building up new colonies and working as a farmer are the games they like most.

And paying fees for an online game was easy to get by. We told them to pay it theirselves. A month without money in the hands took this problem off:playball:
Yes I have had the same experience when given the choice my son chose games like the sims more often then the violent ones. He did play violent ones but they seemed more fantasy like so that didn't bother me that much
 

Aries

DTVUSA Member
#12
I've played plenty of violent games, and unlike the ones that are influenced by them, I can effortlessly tell the difference between fantasy and reality. Looking at my game shelf, I have the following games rated for bloody violence.

God of War 2, Devil May Cry 3, Prince of Persia: Warrior Within, Persona 4, Metal Gear Solid 3, and Xenosaga.

I have good taste.
 
#13
Heck deer hunter series games (by WizardWorks) were rated for 'blood and gore' lol but the reality is that hunting exists and kids do it. so i don't get it...

but in my earlier years of DOS (i didn't grow up during the days of Windows so i missed out on the eye candy of games today) the most violent game i played was Doom and Doom 2 and its expansion packs. i was a Doom-a-holic but it didn't keep me from doing well in school nor did it make me lust for a bazooka. i think a lot has to do with the child's discipline level (we got spankings so we never got outta line much) along with their mentality and view of the world around them. honestly games such as the above won't do much good for those with low self-esteem, depression or mental issues which cloud their judgement, but i don't think blaming the game is the correct route. it is all the parent's responsibility, not the gaming industry's or the government's.
 

divxhacker

DTVUSA Member
#14
...but in the list of #1 violent games Doom was king. but it didn't make me want to go shoot people.
Have you already forgotten about this kid who made these incredible deathmatch levels? Eric's DOOM WADs

Lately, I play games that come from this company: phenomedia publishing gmbh | entertaining people

My favorite games: Sven Kommt!, Gutertrennung (Divorce game, hack the ex's property before she takes it away,) Hank (Dig-dug clone,) Moorhuhn Kart (like Mario Kart, but with unlockable levels,) TinCan Escape (strategy game like "Daleks!") and my latest favorite: Nandas Island // copyright phenomedia publishing gmbh

I prefer peaceable games over violent ones, but, in this world, violence sells. Some of these games' physics, as well as animation engines, are not that perfect. That's why I am working on one that addresses the shortcomings, in my off hours.
 
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#17
Violence in an understood individual is a null. Even when i was a kid, I already knew it wasn't good to kill anyone. I know the feeling of pain when i was fistfighting everyday on my first grade.

To think that any child that had been watching or playing violent games would be affected later in life is a real dumb thing to speculate. Hell i was playing contra and it was full of shooting, double dragon and it beats up anything on your way... but did i become some maniac that wanted to kill or beat up anyone? no... same as most of us, it is pointless IMHO to censor them 'cept sex in games hehe.
 

thor79

DTVUSA Member
#18
I love violent games...one of my favorites is the GTA series...have been playing those since GTA 2.

Should a parent let their kid play violent games? Sure. if the kid wants to so long as they are supervised. Nothing is worse than a parent who just doesn't give a crap what their kids play. If they supervise the kid...make sure they know it's fantasy and shouldn't be acted out in reality...then I have no issues with kids playing the games.

Example: I was working at Target in Electronics at the time GTA: Vice City hit the shelves. We were told not to sell Mature games to kids...that was store policy...but most of my co-workers didn't care at all about their jobs...so they sold them to whomever wanted them (That same apathetic attitude let me succeed easily there). I, on the other hand, followed the store policy, asking for id's whenever someone came up that looked too young.

I had one incident that has stuck in my mind since. A kid...couldn't have been any older than 10 years old came up asking for the game. It was clear he was underage so I told him he needed to be older to buy it or a parent to buy it for him (respecting the wishes of parents was also store policy). So he left and 5-10 minutes later came back with his father. His father asked what the game was like...I told him the truth about the game..and he refused to buy it for him. 10-15 minutes later the kid comes back, only with his mother this time. She was clearly annoyed by the little brat...and when I told her if she wanted to hear what the game was like...she simply refused saying she just wanted to buy the game for him. I sold it to her as she wanted...but it was clear one of the two parents simply wasn't doing their job.



My father always took an interest in what games I played. He was clearly making sure I was handling them ok. I'm not a parent right now...only 30 and on my own, but if I had a kid I would let them play, but keep an eye on their gaming. Some of my friends have kids...young kids (<10)...who they let play the same games we play, but they're always right there with them.

The issue is not the violent video game...it's the parents...they need to take responsibility for their kids bad habits. That includes ALL bad habits...not just violence as a result of the violent video games. There are plenty of bad habits kids get into...but the parents don't take responsibility so it goes unchecked until the kid lands in juvenile hall.

No way should games in any way be restricted...in fact the AO ban on games should be lifted (the practice of retailers not carrying AO games at all...it's not that someone can't make an AO game...they just don't want to because they know it won't sell as they can't get it in the major chains)...but I don't see that happening any time soon. It's not the games' fault the parents can't raise their kids to know the difference between right and wrong/reality and fiction.
 
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CptlA

DTVUSA Member
#19
I love violent games...one of my favorites is the GTA series...have been playing those since GTA 2.

Should a parent let their kid play violent games? Sure. if the kid wants to so long as they are supervised. Nothing is worse than a parent who just doesn't give a crap what their kids play. If they supervise the kid...make sure they know it's fantasy and shouldn't be acted out in reality...then I have no issues with kids playing the games.

Example: I was working at Target in Electronics at the time GTA: Vice City hit the shelves. We were told not to sell Mature games to kids...that was store policy...but most of my co-workers didn't care at all about their jobs...so they sold them to whomever wanted them (That same apathetic attitude let me succeed easily there). I, on the other hand, followed the store policy, asking for id's whenever someone came up that looked too young.

I had one incident that has stuck in my mind since. A kid...couldn't have been any older than 10 years old came up asking for the game. It was clear he was underage so I told him he needed to be older to buy it or a parent to buy it for him (respecting the wishes of parents was also store policy). So he left and 5-10 minutes later came back with his father. His father asked what the game was like...I told him the truth about the game..and he refused to buy it for him. 10-15 minutes later the kid comes back, only with his mother this time. She was clearly annoyed by the little brat...and when I told her if she wanted to hear what the game was like...she simply refused saying she just wanted to buy the game for him. I sold it to her as she wanted...but it was clear one of the two parents simply wasn't doing their job.



My father always took an interest in what games I played. He was clearly making sure I was handling them ok. I'm not a parent right now...only 30 and on my own, but if I had a kid I would let them play, but keep an eye on their gaming. Some of my friends have kids...young kids (<10)...who they let play the same games we play, but they're always right there with them.

The issue is not the violent video game...it's the parents...they need to take responsibility for their kids bad habits. That includes ALL bad habits...not just violence as a result of the violent video games. There are plenty of bad habits kids get into...but the parents don't take responsibility so it goes unchecked until the kid lands in juvenile hall.

No way should games in any way be restricted...in fact the AO ban on games should be lifted (the practice of retailers not carrying AO games at all...it's not that someone can't make an AO game...they just don't want to because they know it won't sell as they can't get it in the major chains)...but I don't see that happening any time soon. It's not the games' fault the parents can't raise their kids to know the difference between right and wrong/reality and fiction.
Even if studies have shown that children who watch watch violent movies and play violent games are more agressive? I don't have any kids, and I like violent games myself, but I don't think anyone under the age of 14 should be playing a game like GTA.
 

thor79

DTVUSA Member
#20
Even if studies have shown that children who watch watch violent movies and play violent games are more agressive? I don't have any kids, and I like violent games myself, but I don't think anyone under the age of 14 should be playing a game like GTA.
It should always be up to the parent to raise their own kid so long as their kid acts properly. However, if there are signs of aggressiveness to the point where they are negatively affecting others in school or whatever...then steps should be taken to curb that aggressive behavior. One way or another.

When it comes to that sort of stuff though I'm sure most of the time there are other factors that come into play other than just video games...people just love the target video games as they are an easy target. They ignore other factors that can contribute to the bad behavior such as neglect, mistreatment, or abuse. No one likes to face the fact that not everyone should be having kids.
 

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