Since I dumped cable I've been using rabbit ears. Luckily for me, where I live the signal is so strong (being only about 3.5 miles from the Empire State Building) that I can get everything with the dipole antenna fully collapsed. However, as I was walking home early this evening from the supermarket, I looked up and noticed two NEW OTA antenna's installed on the roof of my building, one for each side of the building :grin: . Don't know when my landlord did this or why, as the original antennas were long gone before I even moved in to this building ten years ago. At any rate, I disconnected the rabbit ears and ran some coax from the DTV Pal Plus to the outlet in the wall in the living room that is connected to the antenna on the roof, and what do you know, but it's working! The weird thing is though, I'm actually getting LOWER signal strength on some channels than with the collapsed rabbit ears, but no matter, because every channel comes in just as perfect with the roof top antenna as with the ears. I did notice that my landlord has the antenna pointed the wrong way, *away* from the ESB, so maybe that's why? No matter though. Like I said the signals are so strong here you could point it in ANY direction and get everything. Well, everthing except WLIW, that is.